Resto admits Panama Lewis gave him stimulants in water bottle!!!

That confrontation in AOTR was chilling stuff...Lewis just coldly dismissing all the charges and calling Resto a liar to his face...

...Luis' meager "**** you" before offering 0 resistance when Panama grabbed him in a bearhug...the poor guy is an absolute tomato can mentally.

 

The bit in the quote from Resto doesn't say anything about it being a stimulant, thats the biased unprofesional writer who assumes it's a stimulant. Resto only says “When you’re tired, drink that and your lungs open up,” its been claimed this was ice water, which is believed to open the lungs up

Taking stimulants for the first time during a fight would be just plain dumb anyway. If you were going to take them you'd take them in your training to figure what dose worked for you. Taking them in a water bottle would never give you the right dose, which is paramount to the stimulant having any effect and the stimulant not killing the user. Ofcourse this is all too logical for the rabid conspiracy theorists on a boxing board where every loss demands an excuse

 

Here's an idea how about you post something that has Resto actually admitting this instead of something that doesn't :yep

 

Resto did admit he took a stimulant during the Collins bout.

 

Saddest part of all is that Panama Lewis still trains boxers!!

Lewis, certainly up until recently, was still working with Francoise Botha and others, though I believe he's not allowed to attend corners any more. Okay, he's done his time, but...

...and meanwhile Billy Collins has been in a box 6 feet under for 20 plus years!!

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It's an interesting stance to give Panama Lewis the benefit of the doubt in a clearly shady situation.

I believe you're missing the forest for the trees though- even if it wasn't stimulants, anything besides water is illegal to give the fighter in the corner and Pryor should've been DQ'd. You're also awfully trusting given that there was no testing taken for the fight to exonerate Pryor.

Let's be perfectly frank- one doesn't have to be a conspiracy theorist to see that the circumstances of Pryor-Arguello I are at the very least questionable, and at worst, stone cold dirty. In my view, the ending stinks to high heaven and Alexis did get cheated out of history. Just my two cents though.

 

Have I read somewhere that Arguello mentioned to his corner that Prior's gloves seemed harder than normal?

Billy Collins certainly mentioned it to his dad (in his corner) the night of the Resto debarcle.

Pamana Lewis.........

 

Saw it really shocked me...

 

Normally i find these claims a bit outlandish, but given the fact that we know Lewis had tampered with Resto's gloves, it does get credibility.

Resto seemed mentally very weak, but on the other hand, the way he only started to confess after gaining trust, did seem rather genuine. Plus, he really had no reason to make that stuff up about the hardened plaster and asthma pill stimulant. Come to think of it, i strongly doubt he'd even know about something specific as that without having encountered it.

 

I see people everywhere saying Panama Lewis is scum and I've done so myself, but if this story about stimulants and padding-less gloves was something from the 20s or 30s I seriously doubt there'd be as much indignation about the whole affair.

Dont get me wrong, what happened was bad. Not just cheating, but seriously dangerous.

But I wonder why if the beating was so bad Billy Collins kept being sent out to fight. I mean, I've seen the fight, and the eye injuries are obvious, but they kept sending him out. When the damage is so obvious, it's almost irrelevant that the other guy is cheating because the corner and the ref know that such injuries could equate to real eye damage. It's a fighter's own corner who should be responsible for his safety.

 

Here's a more credible source than Resto. Manny Steward:

"Another one was the second fight with Alexis Arguello and Arron Pryor, when Pryor asked me to train him. He was afraid going into the rematch with Arguello because Panama Lewis had been arrested and put in jail at the time, and he was the guy who trained him for the first fight, and even though he never admitted it in so many words, he told me that they were basically getting by with some kind of things that were not legal. So I said, “Well, I will show you how to beat Alexis, but we will beat him by using technique and then you won’t be hit by all those big punches. You know, you’re not going to come to me at the end of the round and where I’ll have something to give you in the drink. We’re going beat him by using different types of techniques.” In two and a half weeks of training, I was able to get him to the fight where it didn’t get that much notice, but he came in totally different with a haircut and a nice white outfit instead of that regular stuff. So I spent a lot of time with him, not just training, but also mentally and psychologically because I knew him well from the amateurs. I was right here in Michigan, so I used to catch him around a lot. So he knew that I knew his style, and he could box pretty good even though he was only five foot six. That was one of proudest moments I had, too, and I thought he fought a great fight without having to resort to any other things just by using his technique and boxing skills."

You're in complete denial about this situation Powerpuncher because of your obvious bias toward certain fighters. It makes you look like a complete fool to claim without a doubt that this fight was "fair and square". I don't claim without a doubt that it's tainted, but the evidence keeps mounting. Your claims about stimulants not taking effect so quickly are complete biased bull****. Lewis called for the bottle twice in the fight. How long does ice water stay cold in ****ing Miami? That's ****ing weak.

 

Is that what you call adding ice to water. "mixed". Wouldnt he just say give me the bottle with icewater or ice in it?

 

Well because boxing at that time was still more brutal than it is today. As dumb as it sounds, fighters at that time had the mentality that they go out on their shield, and as long as they could go on they went on. Now if a guy twists his ankle he stops, but that wasnt the case in the past, especially when your father/trainer was a former fighter as well.