Results Are In: ESB Official Rankings

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  1. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    Starting now, ESB has its own official rankings!

    After lots of discussion about rules and taking nominations for the initial Committee, then voting and crunching the numbers, here's a look at results.

    You'll see a lot of familiar names, but there also were some surprises. Clearly, I believe the heavier international flavor of the ESB community shines through in these rankings.

    Additionally, congratulations to the following posters, who were voted onto the Committee: Emmanuel Augustus, Calabrese, Brickhaus, Pimp C and Dekkers.

    Those posters who came up short, please feel free to apply again in six months.

    Thanks to everyone for participating in one form or another, whether you nominated another poster or offered feedback on rankings or the entire process itself.

    Enjoy!



    Pound for Pound:

    1. Floyd Mayweather
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Juan Manuel Marquez
    4. Bernard Hopkins
    5. Joe Calzaghe
    6. Israel Vazquez
    7. Ricky Hatton
    8. Miguel Cotto
    9. Rafael Marquez
    10. Ivan Calderon



    Heavyweight:

    1. Wladimir Klitschko
    2. Ruslan Chagaev
    3. Samuel Peter
    4. Sultan Ibragimov
    5. Oleg Maskaev
    6. Nicolay Valuev
    7. Tony Thompson
    8. Sergei Lyakhovich
    9. Vladimir Virchis
    10. Alexander Povetkin



    Cruiserweight:

    CHAMPION: Jean-Marc Mormeck

    1. O'Neil Bell
    2. David Haye
    3. Steve Cunningham
    4. Enzo Maccarinelli
    5. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
    6. Darnell Wilson
    7. Marco Huck
    8. Vadim Tokarev
    9. Firat Arslan
    10. Tomasz Adamek


    Light Heavyweight:

    1. Bernard Hopkins
    2. Chad Dawson
    3. Clinton Woods
    4. Zsolt Erdei
    5. Antonio Tarver
    6. Glen Johnson
    7. Paul Briggs
    8. Adrian Diaconu
    9. Stipe Drews
    10. Roy Jones


    Super Middlweight:

    1. Joe Calzaghe
    2. Mikkel Kessler
    3. Anthony Mundine
    4. Lucian Bute
    5. Jeff Lacy
    6. Carl Froch
    7. Librado Andrade
    8. Allan Green
    9. Markus Beyer
    10. Alejandro Berrio

    At No. 1 and No. 2, Calzaghe and Kessler will be fighting for the vacant title.



    Middleweight:

    CHAMPION: Kelly Pavlik

    1. Arthur Abraham
    2. Jermain Taylor
    3. Winky Wright
    4. Felix Sturm
    5. Sebastian Sylvester
    6. Javier Castillejo
    7. Edison Miranda
    8. John Duddy
    9. Amin Asikainen (tie)
    9. Mariano Carrera (tie)

    Note: Roman Karmazin was voted 8th in this division, but he ranks higher at 154 and thus is excluded from these rankings. Kassim Ouma tied for 8th with Duddy, but he is listed higher at 154 and thus cannot be ranked at 160. We need to decide in the next month at which division these guys truly belong.


    Junior Middleweight

    1. Cory Spinks
    2. Vernon Forrest
    3. Oscar De La Hoya
    4. Sergei Dzindziruk
    5. Roman Karmazin
    6. Joachim Alcine
    7. Travis Simms
    8. Kassim Ouma
    9. Ike Quartey
    10. Daniel Santos


    Welterweight

    CHAMPION: Floyd Mayweather

    1. Miguel Cotto
    2. Shane Mosley
    3. Paul Williams
    4. Kermit Cintron
    5. Antonio Margarito
    6. Luis Collazo
    7. Joshua Clottey
    8. Andre Berto
    9. Zab Judah
    10. Oktay Urkal


    Junior Welterweight:

    CHAMPION: Ricky Hatton

    1. Junior Witter
    2. Paulie Malignaggi
    3. Ricardo Torres
    4. Vivian Harris
    5. Gavin Rees
    6. Kendall Holt
    7. Andreas Kotelnik
    8. Jose Luis Castillo
    9. Souleymane M'Baye
    10. Herman Ngoudjo


    Lightweight:

    1. Joel Casamayor
    2. Juan Diaz
    3. Julio Diaz
    4. David Diaz
    5. Nate Campbell
    6. Michael Katsidis
    7. Zahir Raheem
    8. Almazbek Raiymkulov
    9. Yuri Romanov
    10. Jose Armando Santa Cruz


    Junior Lightweight:

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Joan Guzman
    4. Humberto Soto
    5. Marco Antonio Barrera
    6. Edwin Valero
    7. Jorge Barrios
    8. Alex Arthur
    9. Mzonke Fana
    10. Manuel Medina


    Note: Rocky Juarez was voted 10th in this division but was ranked higher at 126, and thus was excluded from the rankings. He's another one we need to decide for certain which is his best class.

    Featherweight:

    1. Chris John
    2. Jorge Linares
    3. Robert Guerrero
    4. Steven Luevano
    5. Jorge Solis
    6. Rocky Juarez
    7. Injin Chi
    8. Hiroyuki Enoki
    9. Martin Honorio
    10. Naoki Matsuda


    Junior Featherweight:

    1. Israel Vazquez
    2. Rafael Marquez
    3. Daniel Ponce de Leon
    4. Celestino Caballero
    5. Steve Molitor
    6. Somsak Sithchatchawal
    7. Kiko Martinez
    8. Mike Oliver
    9. Ricardo Cordoba
    10. Sergio Manuel Medina


    Note: Vazquez was one vote short of being named champion. Of course, a third showdown against Marquez could settle that issue for good.

    Bantamweight:

    1. Hozumi Hasegawa
    2. Gerry Penalosa
    3. Silence Mabuza
    4. Wladimir Sidorenko
    5. Jhonny Gonzalez
    6. Joseph Agbeko
    7. Simone Maludrottu
    8. Ricardo Cordoba
    9. Jorge Arce
    10. Veerapol Sahaprom

    Note: Starting with this class, where were numerous fighters who received votes in two different divisions. If there is confusion over where any specific fighter belongs, we need to determine that within the next month.


    Junior Bantamweight:

    1. Cristian Mijares
    2. Fernando Montiel
    3. Martin Castillo
    4. Alexander Munoz
    5. Nobuo Nashiro


    Flyweight:

    1. Nonito Donaire
    2. Vic Darchiniyan
    3. Daisuke Naito
    4. Takefumi Sakata
    5. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam


    Junior Flyweight:

    1. Ivan Calderon
    2. Hugo Cazares
    3. Ulises Solis
    4. Edgar Sosa
    5. Omar Nino

    Note: Calderon was one vote short of being named champion.


    Strawweight:

    1. Florante Condes
    2. Yutaka Niida
    3. Eagle Kyowa
    4. Muhammad Rachman
    5. Donnie Nietes
     
  2. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probably the best ranking ever
    ... the lower weight calsses however are too empty
    ... maybe you need more people who are familiar with these calsses?
     
  3. magnificentdave

    magnificentdave Constant Reminder Full Member

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    there is a very serious error in your rankings because cory spinks is not listed : /
     
  4. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    can i nominate that my rankings for minimumweight and jr flyweight be adopted?hahaha. i'm kidding. but seriously, this was a good job except for the last three divisions. you could have done better with those boys, they deserve as much attention as given to the bigger boys
     
  5. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probaly this is the logic, the winner go up, the loser go down.
    I hope this list show recent status in the division not the whole career record.
     
  6. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Im going to start doing more research on the lower weights. I never really spend much time on them...as you can hardly ever catch a fight. But I will do my best for next month.

    As for Spinks....I think it was just an oversight. He made most of our lists at the top of Jr MW...remember, this is a whole new system that Lampley is using...bound to be a few kinks at first.

    :good
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The list doesn't reflect any one thing. With multiple people voting using their own unique criteria, it balances out and all things should be reflected.

    I agree that we need to pay more attention to the lower weight divisions. Unfortunately, I am in the US of A and trying to find these fighters and their fights was HARD. And I looked all month.

    However, we are going to discuss a way to get better rankings for them. We have to, to make the rankings even more credible.
     
  8. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    Thank you for catching that. For whatever reason, Excel did not sort Spinks correctly. (Maybe Excel hates his style, too.) His totals were there, but he didn't rise to the top as he should have.

    Anyway, fixed now.
     
  9. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    can i ask why in jin chi is sill there? i heard he shifted to k-1 already?? :huh :huh :huh
     
  10. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    For the same reason MAB is still in there.....may be retired (or switching sports), but still have proven enough to be left in until they are "officially" out.

    At least that is why I included BOTH of the two in my rankings.
     
  11. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Good work guys.
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think alot of us feel he hasn't been inactive long enough to believe he is truly retired. Kind of a judgement call.
     
  13. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    We couldve uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuused your help......:D

    JK bro. Totally understand why ya had to bow out.
     
  14. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    thanx kg and sues2nd! you are obviously more knowledgable and wise than the likes of black and biggame. :good
     
  15. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    I thinks these rankings are very representative, with the understanding that we need work on the little guys.

    The nice thing is that everyone busted it to prepare this first wave of rankings, so from here on out they'll be able to concentrate on specific areas. It's just a matter of making little adjustments from month to month, plus adding to the skill set.

    The Spinks omission confuses me, but I'll figure it out.