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Because Hopkins is no where near the fighter he was in his prime.

Compare the fighter who beat Glen Johnson to the fighter who just beat Wright. They are night and day.

We all know Hopkins is not prime. If anything, people are impressed because he is winning NOT in his prime. But a good LHW will beat him, and I think he knows this. Many experts have said that.....

 

I haven't thought Hopkins was that great for a while. I am not like Amsterdam thinking he is horrible. But I can't see him beating any of the other champions (even Woods) at this point.

I honestly think Dawson would beat him like Jones did. In that fashion.

 

great work guys...getting worried bout this thousand post thing...i dont post 2 much but live on this site mayb u could come up with a second eligibility criteria like 8 months and 800 posts because im sure im not the only 1 on here with decent knowledge that doesnt post every time their fighter gets called a ***** or a dodger or hes gnna get exposed or so an so wlda monstered him blah blah...cause you gotta b voted 4 anyways...if not im looking at like 20 months...otherwise ill just get in arguments with CHJ about joe n ill b there in no time...lol...ta

 

Well, we could look at a poster's join date. I only speak for myself, but the problem with that option IMO is that I look at a persons posting history and check for what I believe is credibility in those posts before I vote on a poster.

 

i asked loses not beats

PS. Hopkins is still numero uno at lightheavy until beaten even if he is not the best according to you; he is king of the division (or as close to king as it gets) and therefore a great scalp. In his two last fights he beat Winky pretty easily and demolished Tarver.

 

He isn't the best according to me, and since we are discussing our own individual rankings I can certainly judge how I please. He is old, has a low workrate, beat Wright when 2 weight classes above his current natural weight (and Wright looked bad at that weight) and Tarver was quite honestly weight drained IMO and while I applaud the win, it was a year and a 1/2 ago and Hopkins didn't look as good in his Wright fight.

So no, I don't think he is a great scalp at all. A good one maybe, but he is 43 yrs old and hasn't looked good in 2 years.

As to your original question, I misread it. Hatton moving up doesn't vacate his title according to the rules unless he actually stays at that weight , just like PBF moving up didn't vacate his by moving up. So IMO he is still champion.

 

Weight drained or not I'm surprised you don't think he looked good against Tarver.

Anyways you're entitled to your opinion.

My question remains if Hatton loses at 147 does he keep his light-welterweight champion status?

 

I edited to answer the question in the last post. Unless Hatton is staying at 147, he is still the 140 champion and just moving up for a mega fight.

Hopkins looked better than Tarver, but that wasn't taking much that night. Both work rates were painfully low and neither looked great to me. I am wrong to say Hopkins didn't look good. Just not like the best LHW in the world.

 

Why oh why is Allan Green rated higher then Alejandro Berrio?!?!?!?!

Green's best wins:
Jaidon Codrington
Emmett Linton
Jerson Ravelo

Berrio's best wins:
Syd Vanderpool
Yusaf Mack
Robert Stieglitz

Berrio > Green

 

Green 1 loss by decision while severely ill (and I mean SEVERELY!). While Berrio has 4 losses (soon to be 5 :hey ), including one to the immortal Jairo Jesus Siris (career record 17-13-1).

Wins can tell you alot about a fighter...as can losses.

There are more reasons, but that is just one of em.

 

I usualy don't give loses much attention unless they are recent. Who cares if Berrio lost to a bum 10 years ago? Manny Pacquiao was knocked out by the great Rustico Torrecampo (14-8-5). No one gives a ****.