Results Are In: ESB Official Rankings

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Lampley, Oct 10, 2007.


  1. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your attempts to maximize the credit Calzaghe will receive should he beat Kessler in Britain are sadly transparent.

    When considering P4P ratings you have to keep recent accomplishments in mind, and Hopkins still has enough of those for him to outrank Joe at this stage. :deal
     
  2. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everything Hopkins has in at least equal, timing, chin etc... in addition to this he has two souls.
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kessler is the favorite, I believe Calzaghe will appear old.

    You also have to take into account how Hopkins is basically disabled compared to someone like Calzaghe at the current time, which is relevant to the the current rankings.
     
  4. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So kick him out your pound for pound lists. It is obvious he will lose as soon as he come up against a very good fighter. Leaving him in there is silly mate, there is no need to wait, to be wrong for several months leading up to his inevitable failure.

    It is like standing in the the middle of a road and saying "I'll move, but only after the bus has hit me."
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Calzaghe will beat Kessler, badly I might add. Even old Deram thinks it may end up a legitimate win for Calzaghe.
     
  6. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Can I volunteer to occationally give a few bits of information about the lower weight classes? I need not be a member of the commitee. It looks a bit loose as there are only 5 fighter there while other division has 10 and a champion.
     
  7. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foolishness.

    I have a 100% prediction record (always will have) and I am predicting Kessler wins this one.
     
  8. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But Stieglitz and Mack aren't Morales and Barrera ... or are they?
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Yes and Calzaghe will become the GOAT because he beat your prediction record mate, we know the drill.:yep

    Now here is the real question CHJ, is your 100% prediction record worth sacrificing for the Calzaghe cause? I don't think so, because that's a very impressive merit that few others have.

    I think we just need to come to terms on this and support our guy with logic, which the conclusion there after studying both combatants clearly shows that even a 75% Calzaghe is enough to win against Mikkel Kessler, he was 75% of his peak vs. Lacy, he hasn't looked like he's declined since in speed and fitness.
     
  10. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    I don't have Hopkins in my personal PfP list. And I'm not a voter, so it really doesn't matter what I think with respect to these rankings.

    Where you and I part is the notion of disagreement. I can respect how someone would rank Hopkins very highly, I just don't place him there myself. You apparently cannot abide that kind of equivocation. And that's fine, if a bit narrow-minded.
     
  11. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can you guys write separate page somewhere between MMA and Classic
    which will show final versions of the ESB rankings (month by month) ?
     
  12. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Understood. Again, wasnt the only thing. Green has lost one fight tho in his career (and again, was VERY sick durig the fight). He is much better than he let on vs Miranda.
     
  13. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    By all means, please offer your opinions. Everyone wanted to do a top 5 only for the lower guys, but if we get enough material, perhaps at some point we can list 10.

    Regardless, those guys are very tough to rank, so any information you have would be greatly appreciated!
     
  14. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually, Joe was the favourite last time I checked.
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The souls thing is interesting.

    But chin and timing are not intangibles, they are tangibles.

    Thanks for playing though.