Your attempts to maximize the credit Calzaghe will receive should he beat Kessler in Britain are sadly transparent. When considering P4P ratings you have to keep recent accomplishments in mind, and Hopkins still has enough of those for him to outrank Joe at this stage. :deal
Kessler is the favorite, I believe Calzaghe will appear old. You also have to take into account how Hopkins is basically disabled compared to someone like Calzaghe at the current time, which is relevant to the the current rankings.
So kick him out your pound for pound lists. It is obvious he will lose as soon as he come up against a very good fighter. Leaving him in there is silly mate, there is no need to wait, to be wrong for several months leading up to his inevitable failure. It is like standing in the the middle of a road and saying "I'll move, but only after the bus has hit me."
Calzaghe will beat Kessler, badly I might add. Even old Deram thinks it may end up a legitimate win for Calzaghe.
Can I volunteer to occationally give a few bits of information about the lower weight classes? I need not be a member of the commitee. It looks a bit loose as there are only 5 fighter there while other division has 10 and a champion.
Foolishness. I have a 100% prediction record (always will have) and I am predicting Kessler wins this one.
Yes and Calzaghe will become the GOAT because he beat your prediction record mate, we know the drill.:yep Now here is the real question CHJ, is your 100% prediction record worth sacrificing for the Calzaghe cause? I don't think so, because that's a very impressive merit that few others have. I think we just need to come to terms on this and support our guy with logic, which the conclusion there after studying both combatants clearly shows that even a 75% Calzaghe is enough to win against Mikkel Kessler, he was 75% of his peak vs. Lacy, he hasn't looked like he's declined since in speed and fitness.
I don't have Hopkins in my personal PfP list. And I'm not a voter, so it really doesn't matter what I think with respect to these rankings. Where you and I part is the notion of disagreement. I can respect how someone would rank Hopkins very highly, I just don't place him there myself. You apparently cannot abide that kind of equivocation. And that's fine, if a bit narrow-minded.
Can you guys write separate page somewhere between MMA and Classic which will show final versions of the ESB rankings (month by month) ?
Understood. Again, wasnt the only thing. Green has lost one fight tho in his career (and again, was VERY sick durig the fight). He is much better than he let on vs Miranda.
By all means, please offer your opinions. Everyone wanted to do a top 5 only for the lower guys, but if we get enough material, perhaps at some point we can list 10. Regardless, those guys are very tough to rank, so any information you have would be greatly appreciated!
The souls thing is interesting. But chin and timing are not intangibles, they are tangibles. Thanks for playing though.