Results Are In: ESB Official Rankings

What intangibles does Hopkins' possess, that Calzaghe doesn't?

Hopkins is an innate loser (relative to Calzaghe), Calzaghe is an innate winner.

Calzaghe also has greater work ethics on fight night.

Calzaghe has the X-factor.

 

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Hopkins just gives up mate.

 

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Your basing this on the Taylor fights alone. During the Wright fight and the Tarver fight, he was the FAR busier man. Both of whom are normally high output fighters as well (Wright much more so than Tarver, but...).

 

Hopkins procrastinates.

Against Taylor "Boxing, oh I'll leave that until later, will just win the second half of the fight

 

Again...just against Taylor.

Winky in many fights throws in excess of 1000 punches...during his fight with Bernard, he was outworked.

You cant watch two fights (where his gameplan was obviously to sit back, pick his spots and wear down Jermain going into the later rounds) and base an opinion on someones whole career...especially when the two fights since have been in stark contrast to how those original two were.

It doesnt make sense.

 

Punches

Hopkins:
152 of 640, 24%

Wright:
167 of 618, 27%

Jabs

Hopkins: 9 of 91, 10%

Wright: 87 of 290, 30%

Power
Punches

Hopkins:
143 of 549, 26%


Wright:
80 of 328, 24%



20 punches is hardly outworked.

Calzaghe throws more than those two old men combined mate.

 

And 640 punches is hardly a low output as well.

But, most of Winky's punches, as you saw......were jabs. So in a way, he still was outworked.

And vs Hopkins....Joe would NOT throw as much as he normally does. If he did, he would get countered all night. Joe knows that....you do as well.

 

Winky made Hopkins work harder than usual that is all. He just kept walking into him, an easy target.

Against Calzaghe Hopkins would have to constantly clinch or throw hundreds of punches to keep Joe off him, and tire after 2 rounds and end up knocked out.




Can i discuss Americanisation with you for a moment?

 

You seriously just called Winky Wright an easy target.

atsch

And you know I dont want to hear your bull**** take on Americanization.

 

Americanization (your account of it) could just as easily be placed on any other nationality. Your for instance, are so against Americans that you overrate others just to downgrade them.

 

Of course there is englishisation, australianisation and all the rest. But americanisation is just so much stronger, so much more influential.

 

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