Resumes on paper: P. Williams, Ishida, Cloud, Campillo, V. Klitschko, Chisora

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  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    This is their resume on paper, but I am choosing what I deem as the fights worthy of acknowledgment (not that they all aren't). Also, there is some perspective of considering the depth of the resume. In other words, Chisora has some names listed under wins which the quality of guys are worse than some unnamed guys from Vitali's. Nonetheless.

    This is started for 2/18/12 which they are facing off. I will continue to edit this as their careers progress.

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    Paul Williams (41-2, KO 27)
    Wins:
    '06 TKO 10 Walter Matthysse
    '06 KO 4 Sharmba Mitchell
    '07 UD 12 Antonio Margarito
    '08 TKO 1 Carlos Quintana II
    '09 UD 12 Winky Wright
    '09 MD 12 Sergio Martinez I
    '10 TD 4 Kermit Cintron
    '11 MD 12 Erislandy Lara
    '12 UD 12 Nobuhiro Ishida
    Defeats:
    '08 UD 12 Carlos Quintana I
    '10 KO 2 Sergio Martinez II

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    Nobuhiro Ishida (24-7-2, KO 9)
    Wins:
    '08 SD 12 Marco Antonio Avendano I
    '09 UD 12 Marco Antonio Avendano II
    '11 TKO 1 James Kirkland
    Defeats:
    '02 UD 10 Crazy Kim I
    '04 UD 10 Crazy Kim II
    '10 SD 12 Rigoberto Alvarez
    '12 UD 12 Paul Williams
    '12 UD 12 Dmitry Pirog

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    Tavoris Cloud (24-0, KO 19)
    Wins:
    '08 TKO 10 Julio Cesar Gonzalez
    '09 UD 12 Clinton Woods
    '10 UD 12 Glen Johnson
    '10 UD 12 Fulgencio Zuniga
    '11 TKO 8 Yusaf Mack
    '12 SD 12 Gabriel Campillo
    Defeats:
    none

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    Gabriel Campillo (21-4-1, KO 8.)
    Wins:
    '09 MD 12 Hugo Hernan Garay
    '09 MD 12 Beibut Shumenov I
    Defeats:
    '07 KO 6 Viacheslov Uzelkov
    '08 MD 12 Karo Murat I
    '10 SD 12 Beibut Shumenov II
    '12 SD 12 Tavoris Cloud
    Draw:
    '11 SD 12 Karo Murat II

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    Vitali Klitschko (44-2, KO 40)
    Wins:
    '99 KO 2 Herbie Hide
    '02 TKO 11 Vaughn Bean
    '02 TKO 10 Larry Donald
    '03 KO 2 Kirk Johnson
    '04 TKO 8 Corrie Sanders
    '04 TKO 8 Danny Williams
    '08 RTD 8 Samuel Peter
    '09 TKO 9 Juan Carlos Gomez
    '09 RTD 10 Chris Arreola
    '09 UD 12 Kevin Johnson
    '11 KO 1 Odlanier Solis
    '11 TKO 10 Tomasz Adamek
    '12 UD 12 Dereck Chisora
    Defeats:
    '00 RTD 9 Chris Byrd
    '03 TKO 6 Lennox Lewis

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    Dereck Chisora (15-3, KO 9)
    Wins:
    '08 TKO 6 Sam Sexton I
    '10 TKO 2 Danny Williams
    '10 TKO 9 Sam Sexton II
    Defeats:
    '11 UD 12 Tyson Fury
    '11 SD 12 Robert Helenius
    '12 UD 12 Vitali Klitschko
    '12 TKO 5 David Haye

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    I disagree with the decisions on quite a few of these. From what I've watched and scored:
    Williams/Lara - I scored for Lara, a clear cut robbery. Gave Williams three rounds I think.
    Cloud/Johnson - I scored this to Johnson by one point. Close fight.
    Campillo/Shumenov II - I scored it 116-113 for Campillo. It too was clear.
    Campillo/Murat I - I scored to Campillo. Forget the score.
    Campillo/Murat II - I scored to Campillo by a wide margin.
    Chisora/Helenius - I scored all 12 rounds to Chisora in robbery of the decade, maybe century.

    I've heard that all of Ishida's losses are controversial. I haven't watched his defeats. I've also heard that Campillo/Shumenov I was a robbery in favor of Campillo. Williams' wins over Sergio and Cintron are close and produce a variety of opinion as does both of Vitali's stoppage losses (yes totally different, but some people out there insist).

    Anyway, it is interesting how many controversial fights and outright robberies exist among these six fighters.
     
  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Scored most like you except cloud 115-113 johnson, campillo also beat murat the second time, the first one was close as was his first fight with shumenov which shumenov edged.
    Pw vs sergio 1 was a draw on my card and he lost 3-1 to cintron.
    Im taking campillo ud/md 12 , williams ud12 and vitali tko 10
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Vitali didn't look great, but I scored it 9 rounds to 3 in his favor. I gave Chisora rounds 6, 7, and 8.

    Looking at the other wins I listed, Chisora is not one of his best, or even "better" wins.
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Scored it similar to you, gave Chisora rounds 6 and 8 with 7 even