Rethinking Cotto vs Hatton

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  1. PirateGorilla

    PirateGorilla Active Member Full Member

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    Are you crazy Margarito is the definition of "IRON" chin and has one hell of stamina. His bigger in size than Cotto.
     
  2. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    The Cotto that fought at 140 lbs had no business being there and the Hatton that fights at 147 lbs has no business being there either. So agree with J-M-P.

    Don't know howmany of you watched the Ian Dark Paulie interview after the fight (on Skye) but Paulie pretty much sumed it up. When asked how Hatton would do against DLH he said that Ricky is a really strong fighter and he uses his strength to work opponents on the inside. But if the opponent was too strong for him he wouldn't be able use that part of his game and he'd basically be a much less affective fighter.

    And I agree. Hatton used hist size to push his opponent into positions where he can hit them with his whipping hooks. This is basically half to 3/4 what makes his so affective. The physical edge he loses too much of his core game to be affective. In otherwords he becomes a much more limited fighter. At 147 he's get owned by Cotto. He would always have a foot speed advatage over Cotto but speed, power and stength would always go to Cotto at 147.
     
  3. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its no knee jerk reaction on my part, its always been a very interesting fight in my mind, one of the fights that I have always wanted to see. what im saying is I was leaning toward Cotto as the winner but seeing how Cotto didnt really handle pressure all that well, im now edged towards hatton...Hatton is more skilled and better at what he does them Margo, but Margo is stronger and hits harder. Im just thinking that im not sure that Margo is that much stronger that Cotto would overcome it and make a better outcome for himself then what he had in the fight with Margo. And seeing how Cotto broke down between the ears Im giving Hatton a slight edge and I dont really think that it matters if its at 147 or 140 or somewhere in the middle.
     
  4. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    :good Good post!
     
  5. PirateGorilla

    PirateGorilla Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly.

    And Margarito would destroy Ricky. Margarito has something Ricky doesn't have: SIZE.
     
  6. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Margarito is a great pressure fighter and he was on the receiving end of numerous Miguel Cotto right hands. Those are the type of shots that I dont see little Ricky Hatton taking over the course of 12 rounds. And, Cotto wont be aiming up either. He would be looking down at Hatton.
     
  7. mexican legend

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    I still think Cotto ko's him. I am pretty sure Cotto will be hurt in the fight since he aint a 140 pound fighter but I think Cotto will be too determined and will KO Ricky Hatton in the fight.
     
  8. audio101

    audio101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well after the horrible beating he took against Margo, Hatton def has a shot at beating him.
     
  9. SFPLAYBOY415

    SFPLAYBOY415 Contender Full Member

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    :good :good :good EXACTLY!!! Hatton has none of that
     
  10. rreed23

    rreed23 aka Gordon Gekko Full Member

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    Ricky batters Cotto at any weight...
     
  11. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Problem is Cotto isnt that Strong, and for me that is what makes the fight interesting. Cotto is a offensive fighter with huge issue with his defence, if you give him room he fights well, if you crowd him he has a tough time, and if you look back on his career you will see that smaller fighters then Hatton has pushed Cotto around but wasnt strong enough to handle the return stuff, the fight that jumps out for him is the Corley fight were Corley crowded Cotto and had him on dream street and running for his life for the first few rounds.

    I think that people tend to overlook whats right in front of them so often. The popular and quick pick would be to say that Cotto wins, but looking deeper its not that simple, and history does mean something.
     
  12. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    when has Hatton got wore down in a fight???
     
  13. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Collazo, Urango, and Mayweather.
     
  14. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto isnt a one punch knockout guy. And people have overlooked hattons handspeed which I think is actaully greater then that of Cotto. Faster hands will play a major factor, in Cotto's big fights he has faced guys that arent busy fighters Shane and Judah which allowed him to fight at his pace. Vs Margo he wasnt allowed to fight at his pace and he fall apart. Cotto isnt as big a puncher as Tsyzu in terms of one shot power and Hatton did a great job of crowding him and taking away his power.

    My point is Cotto would have more coming back at him then he did in all his fights except for the fight with Margo, not sure that he can handle it. The beatting that Margo put on him adds to the doubts that I have.

    I like hatton in that fight no matter what you guys say.
     
  15. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    I completely disagree with just about everything your saying here. Cotto did not break down between the ears in the Margo fight he just had nothing left. If you are talking about some lingering affect the loss might have had on him then I'd say we'll have to wait and see. Personally I've seen Cotto pressured too many times and in too many fights to think he lost his cool in teh Margo fight. He just plain lost.
    You are correct in saying that Ricky is much more skilled then Margo but thats about where the comparisons end. Margo is an F'ing freak. He is way, way bigger and stronger then Hatton. I know you say that he is stronger then Hatton but honestly I think you really underestimate the affect the difference in size and strength had in that fight and how much stronger Margo is then Hatton. Moreover, and this is the part that really needs to be looked into - Margo got hit with every punch under the sun and never once was phased. Do you really think that Ricky could pull this off? Not a chance. And if not do you really think Ricky could avoid Cotto's shots? Well probably a little better then Margo, but no where's near enough. I agree that Ricky could come close to matching Cotto in skill and some may argue he has more (certainly his foot work is better). But at 147 he's not powerful enough, not durable enough and not strong enough to be considered more then a 3 - 1 underdog in my mind. Personally if they had of fought when they were both 140 lbers Ricky would have been too much for him though. But Cotto's stronger, faster and a better technician then he was back then.