Revised: Great Response to Pac's alleged PED use!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dom79, Feb 24, 2010.


  1. Dom79

    Dom79 Active Member Full Member

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    You know I really try to stay away from this topic I find myself being burned out in all honesty. But this is new and its important. I have a lot of mixed feelings about this situation. I feel like how could Manny not take a blood test for a fight and blow a chance at 40 mil. Then I say how can Floyd make a demand he has NEVER made in 40 fights and when his opponent doesn’t comply he blows a chance at 40 mil, especially when it’s well documented he needs the money.

    Although I have no vested interest in who is clean or dirty I have read so much on this debacle trying to accurately research it, that I have literally given myself migraines.

    Not too long ago I came across a couple of articles that stated a while back when Shelley Finkel was managing Manny. Manny was asked to take an eye exam before a fight in Vegas. The article states that Manny freaked a little bit and found this exam to be intrusive. Finkel SUPPOSEDLY petitioned the NSAC to waive the exam. In another article I read that Alex Ariza Manny’s strength and conditioning coach has asked Manny to test the capacity of his lungs, I believe in 2008 . Ariza claims that Manny keeps telling him NO about such test because he is just so uncomfortable about things like that. I found these things interesting because they happened way before these PED accusations. I would love to interview Ariza and Finkel to go in depth with this.

    Maybe Manny has set us all up. But I’m still going to say he is innocent until more FACTS surface. No email from Teddy Atlas’s source still has not surfaced. That is also very disturbing to me.

    Law enforcement sometimes charge you with about 10 offenses HOPING one sticks, which could also be the case in with what is being done to Manny.

    Lastly I researched the credibility of one of Manny’s biggest ACCUSERS, Paulie Malignaggi. I heard Paulie say amongst other things that a fighter does not get stopped at lower weights then goes up in a weight and grows a chin. I have always openly disagreed, because I know experience at the time, and who your opponent is has a lot to do with that. So one day I’m on you tube and I watch a New York Golden Gloves tournament, and there is Paulie fighting at 125lbs at about 17 years old getting knocked out in his fight with a guy named Darling Jimenez in the 1st of their 4 or 5 fights. Paulie had on headgear. I say to myself WOW! Paulie may not be Willie Pep but the guy fights at 140 now and if nothing else he has shown toughness and a good chin. I wonder if he thinks he grew a chin or did he become more mature and just an overall better fighter. Nobody ever accuses him of being on PED’s. My point is when you choose to discredit someone if you look hard enough you can usually come up with something. To be continued………….
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Another thing you should check out is the proposal that Pac agreed to with the 24 day cutoff date for blood tests and the urine testing until the day of the fight. Go on the World Anti Doping Agency website and do some research. You'll see the tests he accepted were pretty comprehensive anyways.
     
  3. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I cant read in paragraphs. I need one solid piece of text.
     
  4. NALLEGE

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    Pac is a suspected cheat. He turned down roughly 25 mil just so that he wouldn't be caught with roids/hgh in his system. A few of Top Ranks fighters are !@!#$!@#$ cheats... I'm piling on, who's with me lol...
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac being a suspected cheat is just further evidence that in the ring he really is on another ****in level.
     
  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he didnt wanna get caught he could have just taken the test and not take roids and take the 25mil. Fail.
     
  7. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    The italian tranny gets KTFO with headgear on by Jimenez,of course after the fight Paula accused Jimenez of being on roids.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqpdvTs5lR4&feature=related[/ame]
     
  8. NALLEGE

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    No it isn't. It means he backed out of an agreement, and that people think that Pauli was write when he said you don't go from being knocked out twice to all of a sudden having a granite chin lol...
     
  9. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. Lance Armstrong is a suspected cheat. Tiger Woods is a suspected cheat(PED's). See what they have in common with Pac? :deal
     
  10. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What roids gives you an iron chin? Please educate us. Oh, you do know he was weight drained int hose KO's right?
     
  11. NALLEGE

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    But he tried the sport, and Paulie won a world title, something a ***** like you didn't dare try to do lol...
     
  12. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    Lance cheated on his wife too?!:yikes
     
  13. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    People who think chins are the only thing behind getting knocked out are just casuals.

    Technique, movement, skill have alot to do with it. Pac gets hit and he knows how to react. He also rolls with punches and partially blocks alot of them, which takes some pop off the them. He didn't have that defensive arsenal in his days at 112 and he was just a kid anyways.

    Its technique more than physical but I don't expect people who don't understand the sport to get it..


    Also, Malignaggi got knocked out at the amateurs. Now he can take a 12 round beating at the hands of Cotto? What happened
     
  14. NALLEGE

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    I don't know what roids do for you. I just know that PAc was ko'd twice in 3 rounds, and that he was not weight drained for any fights...
     
  15. NALLEGE

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    Exactly. Pac was ko'd in 3 rounds by a chin shot first, and then a body shot.