Rewatched Jones vs Calzaghe

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Fab2333, Dec 23, 2008.


  1. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    i am sorry but if it has been said before but how could you give RJJ round 3
     
  2. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    I think it goes 12 rounds whenever they fight but 1995-2002 is all Jones in terms of who would win

    2003-2008 Calzaghe would have a chance, especially up until 2005 when he was still relatively heavy handed

    It's his fault though cos he broke his knuckle against Evans Ashira....a ridiculous fight in the first place
     
  3. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Total fanboy bias I suppose.
     
  4. DINAMITA

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    I have to log off shortly, I look forward to a very lengthy passage of wishy-washy sit-on-the-fence desperate straining to defend Joe against the eternal universal conspiracy against him whilst begging for public validation! Lovely Christmas reading ahead for me!! :good
     
  5. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    I picked the thread starter up on the round 3 issue a while back......all Calzaghe that round
     
  6. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I didnt even read all the posts, it got to the point where it felt like I was listening to petty arguements with 9 year old schoolgirls.

    1. Both were past prime, Jones more so.

    2. Calzaghe would have took over in the 2nd half, cut or no cut due to his outstanding Stamina & come forward pressure.

    3. Nobody knows for sure who would win prime for prime, we can only guess but neither man would dominate or win easy, of that Im sure.

    4. Both are ATGs who`s abilities deserve massive respect whether you like them or not.

    5. The end !
     
  7. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My post was short and to the point:

    I wanted Pavlik not Jones simply because he was shot to pieces.

    I can understand the fight, but I did not support it. A victory over Pavlik would have enhanced his credibility a whole lot more.

    This isn't something I've said in hindisight or because of backlash, I said immediatley following Hopkins and stuck with it.

    I don't really hold the win in any great regard at all, nor does anyone with half a grain of sense.
     
  8. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    i just debated my point wit Mr. Plow on that, its hw u judge it. BUt he changed my mind so Calzaghe has gotten that round.
     
  9. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    ok Ms Cleo, since what you say is bond, go head. Again if you cant contribute anything of merit get out my thread. Never did i once bash calzaghe, every1 here is havin an educated convo. If your brain doesnt allow you to be able 2 handle that. The dont post
     
  10. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    and let me amend this

    Just rewatched that fight, and for most who said Roy Jones was shot, I saw different. Depending on how you judge the fight, The pitty pay shots, or the cleaner efective shots. Round 6 was a toss up, and even some of those 1st 5 couldve been dead even rounds. Dont wanna seem biased. They couldve been tied.

    HBO score after 6 was a tie fight, even the Sentanta announcers had a tie after 6. You can check it out on youtube for yourself.

    Now as I have said be4, be4 that cut happened. Roy was slowing the pace of the fight down, and starting to land more. As soon as the cut happened Calzaghe smelled blood and went in for the kill.

    So for the final score to be as lopsided as it was, I think the perception made it seem worst that it actually was.
    Im not lookin to get into any kind of Calzaghe vs the rest of the boxing world war.
    Every1 can post, there opinions, and be civil.
    All I say is rewatch it again, the Sentanta stream is on youtube now in HD. And if you guys dont believe that Roy was very much in that fight be4 that cut, then that would b total bias. Calzaghe did win it. But RJ was right there be4 that cut happened

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCDl1...eature=related
    is part 1, click the HD link n go through the rest of the parts. Let me know what you think
     
  11. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Take a video of RJJ anno 2000 and compare to the Calzaghe-fight after round 2 and you'll see that Jones was very far from his top level - he might be totally shot yet, but he isn't going to beat any top fighter of today at this form. Jones of today is at gatekeeper level ... and the Calzaghe-fight just confirmed that.

    Jones is over the top and should hvae put those gloves away ages ago.
     
  12. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course. Hanshaw won the SMW tournament and then Roy beat Hanshaw. That was a great achievement actually to beat a hard-working and up-coming winner of the tournament. Roy is not exactly what he was, but he is still a really good boxer.
     
  13. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    lol you guys are tellin me to watch RJ from back in the day, like this is my first time seeing him. I am a huge fan, have been watchin him from the early 90's.
    Yes he is shot by his own standards. But that wasnt the premise for my arguement. My whole point was RJ was very much into that fight, he was boxing good. Up until the cut happened in the 7th. And if the cut never happened I honestly think it mayb couldve gone either way.
     
  14. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    I had that fear of Joe outworking Roy going into the fight even with Bhop ..What happened was exactly that ..Jones was most def a shell of his former self but was very much in the fight for the whole 12 rds .Up until the fight Jones was as live as he could be for his age but after the cut he had only a punchers chance but all and all a much better outing than say Oscar !! And he looked better than Pavlik against Hopkins thats for sure ..But can't hate on the result ..
     
  15. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    Bro, i'm a huge fan myself, but please stop making threads on this subject...It simply hurts too much...
    I feel what you are trying to say but Jones was a shell that night and he ****en pissed me off by letting JC embarrass him the way he did. He couldnt pull the trigger even with JC's hands down. WTF WAS THAT ABOUT???? Would the Jones of 5-7 years ago let that happen? **** no, he's knock his ass out. In fact, the Jones of 5-7 years ago wouldn't of let JC out of the first rd after the KD.

    So again, as a Jones fan, I want to put this behind me and try to remember the fighter in his prime and not the one that had no business being in the ring that night.