Rewatched Parker Ruiz and Parker AJ

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by notjustacasual, Jun 16, 2019.


  1. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    The ref was dreadful in that fight. There were so many moments where it seemed that he was completely out of his depth. I remember when Parker & Joshua were literally exchanging shots at close quarters near the ropes and the ref just jumped in, it was just outrageous.
     
  2. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Well maybe you didn't but as I stated in my opening post, Ruiz jr beat Joshua all over the ring and smashed him to smithereens up close

    Parker and Ruiz jr were pretty much 50/50 up close, and Ruiz best shots never buzzed Parker and Parker was able to stand and trade fire with Ruiz and back him up at times.

    Extrapolating from that I think it's fair to say Parker would have had a MUCH BETTER chance of beating Joshua if the ref let him get within 10 foot of him
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    I think Parker is a boxer-counter puncher primarily and boxed accordingly. But he's also far more aggreesive at times than he's given credit for. And he was aggressive against Joshua more than he's been credited with.
    There was a moment in round 6 I think where Parker literally chased Joshua across the ring and they were brawling near the ropes when the referee jumped in.

    I agree, Joshua adapted well and boxed well and deserves credit. I just think Parker was at the bigger disadvantage because his reach meant he'd need the moments of success in close to get a real chance of setting the pace and shape of the fight.

    The point is, the referee interfered to such a great extent it really doesn't tell us how Parker and Joshua match up.
    Joshua deserved the win on the night but I didn't feel his superiority was rightly established.
    I've always been open to seeing a rematch despite the negative view of the fight (and of Parker) that some hold.
     
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  4. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, the worrying thing is that he probably wasn't paid off.
     
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  5. Aydamn

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    Pfahahahah weak words

    Ruiz did to AJ what I believed Whyte would do to AJ.

    Whyte is way up there at the top with these guys and beats them on any given day.

    You chat.pure rubish mate.

    Who you got for Whyte vs Rivas???

    Whyte would school dubois.. beat Joyce and send Pulev to retirement. Turning down a fight doesnt mean you are ducking... it means a guy wont fight if the terms dont make sense to him.
     
  6. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    100%. Kevin Barry wanted Parker to work inside and let his hands go In close, I was in NZ for a few months and at the time of the fight and Barry said on the news over there look Joe won't win a contest standing off and Jabbing but we belive AJ has a weak chin and will be looking to get in and exploit that.

    Well they got in the ring and the ref literally blocked parkers game plan and said nah your gonna stand off and jab mate.
     
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  7. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    I covered this at the time, and was mercilessly ridiculed and attacked for exposing for the blatant favoritism the ref displayed.

    [url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/the-moment-parker-was-prevented-by-the-ref-from-finishing-off-joshua.605847/[/url]

    Any other ref and Parker would have done what Ruiz did to Joshua.
     
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  8. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Can't argue with it after what we saw 2 weeks ago.

    If the ref had let Parker get up close, looking at the AJ Ruiz fight and knowing anything about Parker there's only one result.

    And I actually think AJ may have finished that fight on his back rather than being waved off as Parker is a bit more concussive than Ruiz
     
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  9. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interestingly enough, Parker said at the time that Ruiz hit a lot harder than Joshua.

    I think Parker against the winner of Ruiz-Joshua II works regardless of who comes out on top. If Ruiz wins it's a no-brainer to avenge his only pro loss, and there's enough dispute regarding Joshua-Parker to sell that fight.

    Rightly or wrongly, Parker's stock has rose on the back of Ruiz' win. That's the thing with the heavyweights in particular, you're only one win away from being relevant again. In Parker's case it wasn't even his win that did it.
     
  10. CutThroatFade

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    There is nothing to suggest that Whyte definitely beats any of those guys. They are all near on 50/50s.
     
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  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    I'd also recommend to also revisit the takam fight, because takam towards the latte stages of the fight was beginning to come on strong and find his rhythm after riding through the storm, while Joshua was getting frustrated. Fatigue was also due to play a considerable part in the championship rounds before the overprotective MR sponsored ref delivered one of the most premature stoppages in British boxing history.

    Up there with this

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  12. CutThroatFade

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    It was an absolute disgrace mate. Takam was still a live dog.
     
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  13. channy

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    If it does happen and in the UK, Bruce Forsythe will be the MC and it should be on free to air tv because it will be like watching an episode of strictly come dancing.
     
  14. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    What's even more disgraceful is that could have easily have been Ruiz who was placed in a headlock by the ref before being told he couldn't continue had the fight been in the uk instead of MSG
     
  15. Hattonmad

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    Takam fight annoyed me. AJ known for tiring in fights and Takam was going nowhere. Ref steps in for no reason. I'm not saying Takam would've won the fight but it defeats the whole purpose of a professional boxing match when you don't allow a challenger who is perfectly fine to come on strong in the championship rounds. Sky of course said it was the right ending. People shelling out 20 pounds for it too.
     
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