Rewatched Pavlik-Hopkins......

I thought Hopkins would win, but not that convincingly.

Also the Countdown by HBO made it look like Hopkins was about to die.

 

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94625

check out this thread

many people were saying Pavlik by KO

 

Hopkins fights against Trinidad, Pavlik and Tarver were masterpieces.

 

Hopkins is a legend

Scrap that RJJ loss because he hadnt developed the skillset he has now

Scrap the JT "losses" which not only did he win, he was DEAD at the weight. He should have moved up YEARS before he did - why else did he move up 2 entire weight classes to then outbox Tarver who is a big LHW.

Very close loss to Calzaghe who's one of the best in the generation.


Hopkins is a bad ass.

 

Excerpts from Pavlik-Hopkins: Boxing is a Cruel Teacher
Thomas Hauser, October 27, 2008
Full article in Hauser archives on Seconds out

Team Pavlik arrived in Kelly’s dressing room at Boardwalk Hall on Saturday night at 8:45 PM. Several minutes later, Dr. Domenic Coletta of the New Jersey Athletic Control Board came into the room to administer the final pre-fight physical. Everything went according to form until Coletta asked, “Are you on any medication?”

“Yes, sir.”

“What for?”

“Bronchitis.”

“Did you have a fever?”

“Not today.”

“Before today?”

“A hundred and one degrees.”

“What have you been taking?”

Mike Pavlik handed a sheet of paper to the doctor. “Here’s what they gave Kelly.”

Coletta scanned the list. Mucinex, penicillin (one shot on Wednesday night), and ciprofloxacin (500 mg twice a day through the day of the fight).

“How do you feel now?”

“Okay.”

Coletta finished his work and left. Over the next ten minutes, Mike and Jack Loew exchanged bad jokes. “That’s a new low, no pun intended,” Mike quipped after one particularly bad offering.

Then Mike turned pensive. “This has been an incredible journey and I’m glad to be part of it,” he said. “But when it’s over, I won’t miss it. When your kids are little, you say, ‘When they’re older, I won’t worry about them.’ But you always worry. Little kids, little problems. Big kids, big problems.”

The day before, Hopkins had weighed in at 170 pounds and Pavlik at 169. But those numbers were deceiving. Now, Kelly (wearing a track suit but no shoes) weighed 176. Minutes earlier, wearing sneakers, Hopkins had tipped the scale at 185. Bernard would have a considerable weight advantage.

At eleven o’clock, Loew gloved Kelly up.

Fighter and trainer began working the pads. It was Kelly’s first strenuous exercise of the night.

Kelly began to cough.

Each time Loew took a break, Kelly went into the adjacent bathroom, coughed, and spat out phlegm. The third time he did it, Mike Pavlik turned away in a corner of the room, pressed both fists against the wall, and took a deep breath. A very deep breath. “Christ,” he murmured.

“This was the best performance of my career,” Bernard said at the post-fight press conference.

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In what Hopkins called "the best performance of his career" he beat a version of Pavlik that would have lost to Zuniga, McKart , and Zertuche. But ya, it was a "masterful" performance.

 

Nice exerpt Boo.

 

It seems Pavlik is always sick or injured.

 

Yes, I agree Pavlik was a fool to go in against Hops under those conditions. He also had an injury to his left elbow that limited sparring and strength training to about 25% of normal. Every member of Team Pavlik wanted to postpone over the elbow injury, and then again over the bronchitis. KP would not hear of it. That **** is on him and no one else.

I'm not going to say Pavlik would have beat Hopkins under better circumstances. I never have. However, it's worth considering the fact that Enrique Ornales did better against BHop than Pavlik did.

 

If this statement is correct, then yeah Pavlik should have pulled out when he 1st became ill, but it would have been hard to do on the night. Could Pavlik had done better if he was 100%, we'll never know, I dont think he would have won but id guess he would have faired better.

 

"Double the jab!"

 

I just rewatched it the other day too

LOL at the ring walk, Loew is yelling at Pavlik to pump him up but stops cause theres something in his shoe and leaves Pavlik to walk up by himself.

That straight punch in the 2nd that had Pavlik on ***** street makes me believe that Abraham would absolutely TKO Pavlik.

Loew tells Pavlik to touch Bhop's nuts very early...not only that but Pavlik actually did, not a punch but a sort of grab.

The corner advice tells the whole tale, every round Nazim would frantically tell Bhop something different and Loew would repeatedly say the same thing over and over.

At the end of the fight after both camps were done scuffling with each other, Pavlik along with Loew looked really scared in the corner when Bhop was walking towards them to give Pavlik a little lecture. Pavlik also with Loew were like "yes sir" through out the entire talk.

Cant say Pavlik didnt jab enough, it was the only department where he did better than Hopkins at, he threw and landed it more.

 

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96105&highlight=pavlik+hopkins&page=3

Not one of my prouder moments, I was a bit classless.