Rewatched the fight without US commentators, yes loma was robbed (again)

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Of course he was, because Maidana was actually forcing Mayweather to throw because the pressure and the punches that were coming from all angles was far greater than the occasional jabs and straight rights Teo was throwing. Yeah, I agree, which is why I gave Teo 5 of the first 6 rounds, although merely pointing out, that round 2, 6 and 7 are nearly impossible to split. Because Teo was barely landing anything and Loma was landing the little he actually threw. And how about this? Maybe you need to process that just because a great fighter is a little too cautious and miscalculates by 2 rounds, who then comes back to dominate the second half, that doesn't make them an overhyped fighter, and you're an ****ing idiot casual for thinking so. Newsflash numbnuts, great fighters lose sometimes.
     
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  2. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like this break down. So Lopez won the fight closely against Loma, didn't he?
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yes, when have said otherwise? I'm merely stating a draw is not out of the question, and for anyone who thought Teo dominated the fight, they're wrong. He didn't even dominate the rounds he won. You actually have to land punches to fully dominate, but he does get full credit for looking like a bad mother****er while marching forward punching Loma on the gloves.
     
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  4. ayala

    ayala Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had loma winning 2, ,6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 although the 6th could have been a 10-10 round. My I take my hat of to Lopez. He says he’ll fight Haney but Haney wouldn’t want. Let’s see what happens. Lightweight has a lot of fighters that is looking as popular as the welterweight
     
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  5. CST80

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    Think about that.... jackasses are saying now that Loma is an overrated fighter... yet the man generously gave his opponent 6 free rounds, and still almost beat him.:lol:
     
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  6. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No no... you haven't said anything otherwise. I just want to make sure that I understand your points of view correctly. I also fully agree with you that great fighters lose sometimes. Everybody can have a bad day or a bad night so it 's common in every sport. Joshua got TKO by Ruiz and later he beat him in the rematch.
     
  7. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    Big Loma fan here. But he simply couldn't pull the trigger. He was scared of the fire.

    Put grandaddy PAC in there with Teo to show how a real boss handles these chumps
     
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  8. Phinx

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    Really? What about the gif's I posted in the previous page showing round 2 in slow motion. Where Loma didn't land 4 clean punches like you claimed. Only 2. 1 of which Teo leans back and rolls with the punch.

    In the first exchange, not only does loma's attacks get dodged/blocked. Teo counters and lands. In the 2nd gif we see Teo counter Loma's hit/feint blindsiding pivot. 2nd time in a row he stops Loma's trademark matador style. And he never uses it again. So we already see 2 hits from Lopez. With at least another 4.

    Give Lopez some credit. How does Loma win that round by getting outlanded, had his offense neutralized, walked down (jabs to keep him at bay). Meanwhile dodges, defends, counters and lands on both exchanges Loma throws at him?
     
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  9. CST80

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    I watched the round back 2 times, I didn't watch your gifs. But now that I have, I still see Loma connect in both of them. If you think Teo dodged the first punch in the first gif, get yourself some glasses. Loma almost drove his head off of his shoulders with that left. Hell he did compact his skull into his spine.
     
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  10. Komaster

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    How on earth is that first one a 'dodge and counter' lol!
     
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  11. Phinx

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    Actually yeah it does connect. I was wrong there. You said 4 clean punches and Lopez didn't land. That wasn't true. I can show at least 6. So maybe you should get classes.

    That's still only 3 punches. It's a cross counter for Lopez slowed down from previous impact. He also blocks the 2nd punch.


    So how exactly did he win with those 3 punches? I'd rate Teo's punch countering Loma's pivot better. And it's easily the most impressive thing that round. Mentally, the impact was huge too.
     
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  12. CST80

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    So wait? You're telling me you missed a shot that Loma's blind as a bat 104 year old partially mummified great great Aunt Olga saw clear as a bell, and she doesn't even have a television, and you expect me to take your word for anything else?:sisi1
     
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  13. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    The situation is simply that Loma tried what has served him him so well in the past but couldn't do enough to win.
    Simple as that. You have seen the best Loma, it's downhill from here. Lopez was too much for him and that's it.
    All the tactical changes in the world won't help him in a rematch. He can't do a Pep-Sadler and come back to school Lopez because
    A) He doesn't have the legs at lightweight anymore (too much bulk) and
    B) Lopez is too technically sound for that to work

    Rematching would be a terrible idea for Loma IMO and Lopez would simply stick it on him earlier (having no fear now) and probably stop him.
     
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  14. dogcatcher

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    I was all in for Loma, but there is no way I can say he won that fight.

    Teo won 5-6 rounds of the 1st half of the fight out the gate.
    You can't throw away more than 1-2 rounds, and expect to come back, let alone 5-6.
    Loma felt that power to the arms and body early and clammed up until he knew he had no choice.
    In the the second half of the fight Loma took over, but his lack of power allowed Teo to recover his stamina.
    Teo pushed harder in the 12th and even had Loma a little rocked, to seal the deal (115 to 113).

    I always pegged Loma to school Tank, but he might clam up again if faces a real heavy hitter.
    We have questions now, that hopefully Loma answers in the neat future.
    IMHO he should probably go back to 130 or 126. In every fight he's had a 135, he's looked too small.
     
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  15. Unforgiven

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    Lopez won clearly.
     
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