Rewatching Canelo vs Golovkin 1 rbr

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In that round, I saw what they saw. Their view of who won the fight overall wasn't clear. Harold scored it for GGG, but I'm not sure Jim, Max or RJJ made it clear that they thought GGG won or had a strong opinion either way. And if they did, what does that have to do with Round 3, the round we are discussing? This is like a deflection.

    Even if they scored the overall fight for GGG, we still need to deal with what happened in Round 3 since it's scored RBR. Every round is different and I thought there were stronger arguments for GGG winning other closer rounds than Round 3 which seemed a pretty clear round for Canelo. But 2 judges gave that round to GGG, so you have that, and all 3 judges gave Round 4 to GGG, a round I also gave to Canelo. But I think we can agree that GGG had a stronger case for winning Round 4 than Round 3 which you admit was very close and hard to score. If you've determined that it's hard to score, then surely this round requires further examination on why it was hard to score. It may have been hard for you to score in part because of what happened when Canelo went back to the ropes and maybe you aren't used to scoring rounds with a unique sequence like that.

    The common thread in round 3 and round 4 is that both rounds involved a prolonged sequence in which Canelo went back to the ropes, and fought off the ropes without throwing punches, just putting on a display of defense and picking off shots. It seems that the interpretation of these Canelo ropes sequences may have played a role in why the judges and some fans gave these rounds to GGG, instead of scoring it based on clean effective punching. So perhaps the scoring of these rounds has more to do with the fact that Canelo went back to the ropes picking off shots rather than basing it on actual scoring criteria like who landed the better punches.
     
  2. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can’t lie I was going avoid this thread after my initial post but clicked on and saw y’all debating round 3, the fact that you lost that round as close says maybe you do have a bias and are just hating, as far as the matches you list the Floyd fight is the only one with any gripe. Trout got beaten up an dropped, Lara ran and tried to play tag and pitty pat, and ggg got a DRAW yall giving the man rounds for eating punches walking forward and missing shots
     
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  4. C.J.

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    GGG won that round easily GGG jabbed Gingers head off had him backing up like Floyd lol
     
  5. shadow111

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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yes you're right.
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    We've discussed round 3 plenty of times. You gave it Canelo, I gave it G. 2 judges gave it G, 1 judge gave it Canelo.

    If you want to debate it further put a poll on and see how many score it for Canelo and how many for Golovkin.

    Some rounds are close, that's the way a subjective sport works.

    Its a 3 minute round, you watch it and score it.

    What more is there to say really?
     
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  8. drenlou

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    You guys are still debating this? Lol
     
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  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    You literally contributed 2 hours ago lol
     
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  10. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Shadow will find something
     
  11. drenlou

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    Yeah, but damn... lol
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Some threads will naturally go on for a few pages.

    This is one of the most controversial bid fight decisions in recent memory.

    I just stoked the flames of that memory with my renowned and saught after rbr.
     
  13. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao Marquez 3, Williams Lara or willams Martinez are all more controversial fights the this one, only thing debatable is the bs 117-111 score outside of that the fight was a draw and not that hard to call
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    You are one of the only posters on the website who thinks it was a draw, and only one of the 3 judges felt it was a draw. So maybe it was hard to call.
     
  15. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My friend when looking at these 2 fights I’ve noticed overwhelming fans give GGG credit for missed and blocked shots and ignore Clear as day landed punches from Canelo, even most of y’all break down if the fight Canelo was moving backwards so he losing. Alvarez has never been a mindless face forward brawler he’s always been a counter puncher, yall bring up Canelo moving backwards like he not walking GGG into counter after counter but then the excuse is it didn’t hurt or something of that nature, we’ve also seen Canelo fight off the ropes in damn near every fight but even though he’s dodging the majority of GGG shots on the ropes it’s GGg forced him to the ropes ignoring the actual work being done.
    Now personally I am a fan for Canelo but I have never let being a fan blind me to what’s actually happening in the fight.
    For me I feel like most of the talk about the first match stems from 2 things one GGG winning maybe 4/5 straight rounds in the middle of the fight, winning those rounds b2b2b leaves a bigger impression than a few rounds here and a few rounds there and the wide card is gonna make ppl over embellish what happened in the other direction to counteract what was a ridiculous score in the first place.
    If that fight was scored 7-5 Canelo 6-6 draw 5-7 GGG nobody would complain but because of that one 117 score ppl going to look at that more than the actual fight and what was a good decision.