Rex Layne v.s. Smoking Burt Cooper

Nah, he was pretty ordinary against cruiserweights too if I remember rightly.
He lost to Nate Miller, barely got past Tyrone Booze.
Big Foot Martin beat him at cruiser.

 

Cooper at his best with focus was a poor man's Mike Tyson. At his best I think he stops Layne.

On their average nights, it could go either way.

 

HeGrant,

Could Smokin Bert Cooper have beaten Jersey Joe Walcott and Ezzard Charles?

 

Why not , Elmer Ray did.

 

Satterfield/Cooper is actually a toss up. They were both erratic, and Satterfield proved capable of beating the better class of opponent.

 

Yeah, he'd be like Bob Satterfield.

 

So Charles and Walcott weren't very good fighters?

 

1990s heavyweight era has gotten so overrated. The fact that two 45 year old men were able to rise to the top should speak volumes . People love the era because it was dominated by Americans(save Lennox Lewis). Americans who had ripped pyschiques, and who could punch. The reason was because those American Heavyweights were abusing themselves with anabolic steroids.

Wladimir Klitschko of 2007-2011 would have made those american juice heads of the 90s look second rate...mark my words.

For the record...I am American, and live in Boston, Ma.

 

And former olympian Tillman as well.. When Cooper was motivated and well trained, he was hot. Not a world beater by any means but certainly better than just your run of the mill journeyman or gate keeper.

 

You really think he would have made Tyson, Bowe, and Holyfield look second rate?

 

If you take a bunch of great fighters drop them in the same era at their best, who knows how it would turn out, would some even still be percieved as great?

If Tyson stayed on course, kept improving, and met all challenges, never went to prison, and just dominated for 10 years like he was supposed to what would we say of Lewis, Bowe, and Holyfield? Would they just be seen as very good contenders? If they got dominated and knocked out by Tyson, would they like so many humbled failed contenders stuck beneath dominant Champions lose motivation faster and not have remarkable later careers?

In any era, how many potentional greats just didn't have the chance? If Ali didn't emerge in the 60s, would we see a guy like Terrell take a piece of history and make a brief claim at greatness? If not for Marciano, would we have the Layne era?

 

You asked a question ,I answered it. Charles and Walcott were very good fighters , as good as one can be without ascending to the next level , neither was a truly great heavyweight imo. That is not only the opinion of insignificant little McVey, it is the stated opinion of Joseph Louis Barrow,so if you have a beef about it, take it up with him when you eventually meet him.

 

Seriously ,did Layne really have an era?
Three days after I was 2 years old ,24th Nov 1950,he beat Walcott, this commenced a purple patch that lasted until 12th of August 1951, when Marciano nearly decapitated him .

Prior to that his best win may have been against TurkeyThompson ,who had lost his last 2 fights.
Does that qualify to be spoken of as an era?