Rex Layne vs Roy Jones, Jr

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  1. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    None of that compares even a tiny bit to his knockout of Charles

    "Iron chinned"
    "Calzaghe"
    Pick one

    Since when does size equate to chin? I can point out innumerable opponents in the 175, 168 and 160 divisions that jones failed to knock out. The only difference? Maxim was an ATG with a great chin that was only cracked by Curtis Sheppard, the man archie moore quoted as the hardest hitter he ever faced.

    He phoned in most of those fights, walcott only showed up in prime condition for certain fights. Dont forget that he had a family of 6 to feed while living in poverty. Also, ten hoff was undefeated when they fought. Layne was being heralded as the next jack dempsey and KO'd satterfield. Layne was a great fighter until Marciano broke him

    Everything shows that Jersey Joe had more power. Not only that, but better boxing ability, a better resume, better timing, etc. Jones was undoubtedly faster, but that doesnt mean much considering walcott's advantage in all the other departments
     
  2. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    This is Rex Layne, 3 months after Marciano "broke" him, vs Ezzard Charles. Timberrrrrr!

    Frankly he looks awful. Slow, easy to hit, no head movement, little foot movement. Did Marciano cause all these
    deficiencies, or did Layne already have them?

    Roy would have chopped him up easily.

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  3. Seamus

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    He was a lesser talent than a decrepit ancient Walcott? Really?

    People forget that at the age of 33 Jones was being considered seriously in the ATG LB4LB discussion with a significant body of work behind him.

    As for Layne, he was a doughy, and at least according to Jack Dempsey, NOT very strong and NOT very motivated in training. On film he looks decidedly ordinary. And his best "win" was a ref verdict by Dempsey where over half the rounds were declared even.

    Jones by KO in 9.
     
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  4. FrankinDallas

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    This is Layne 4 months BEFORE Marciano "broke" him. Still looks lousy, IMO.
    Satterfield knocked him around like a stepchild until Layne got in maybe a lucky punch.

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  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    If I've said this once, I've said it a thousand times.

    Walcott aged extremely well. He didn't hit his peak until Louis vs Walcott, then kept his peak up to the fight with Marciano. He was a fine wine. Like Hopkins.

    His best win was over Satterfield imo. Also, he was being heralded as the next Dempsey, he was young, of decent size, had a good right hand, and had some good upset victories. He was 34-1 when he fought Marciano.

    Your verdict on the fight is fine, however
     
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  6. Seamus

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    So, Walcott quit at the peak of his game?


    Satterfield was dangerous but terribly inconsistent and not in the league of the big boys. He had already been stopped 6 times by the time Layne turned the trick. Layne was game. You can't say he wasn't.
     
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  7. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    He quit after he got slaughters by Marciano. Honestly a common decision of the time.

    I said it was his best win. A bit better than outboxing a fat Walcott
     
  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    IDK, the Walcott who took prime time Marciano to the brink may have stopped Jones.
     
  9. Seamus

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    Or he quit because he was far past it but had been able to hold onto a top spot in an extremely depleted era. A common decision at that time was for geriatrics to stay in the mix because the division was so poor.
     
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  10. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Yeah, no.

    Ezzard Charles decided to stay and he got destroyed, even though he was at the young age of 32. Same thing happened to Layne and LaStarza

    Walcott knew when to retire. He'd just been knocked out in the 1st round by a talented new face, and he already accomplished his goal of becoming heavyweight champion. Walcott gave one of his best performances against Marciano (in their first fight)
     
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  11. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    If he had Jay "BREAK" Nady reffing. :cool:
     
  12. Flea Man

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    Do you have a link to your boxrec?
     
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  13. Contro

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    Heralded as the next Jack Dempsey


    Some good UPSET victories


    Which one is it? Him winning can't be an upset if he's heralded as the next coming of an explosive and ferocious ATG HW champ.

    Layne doesn't look special before or after Marciano smashed him, and he would have to look pretty damn special if anyone with a brain called him the next Jack Dempsey.
     
  14. Contro

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    If "Young age of 32" wasn't bad enough,

    Small heavyweights rely on speed mobility and reflexes to beat the bigger guys, these attributes are the first to go with age B

    But what really makes this statement laughable is the fact that this is the pre PED era where you couldn't yet drastically slow down the natural aging process.

    32 back then is like a beat up 36+ now
     
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  15. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    That was hard to read. Yes, you can have upset victories and be heralded as the next Dempsey. What you said was full of assumptions. He was the 4-1 uunderdog against Walcott. He was written as the Next Jack Dmepsey when placed as the favorite against Marciano.