Richard John Hatton vs. Arturo Gatti

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Hitman or Thunder?

  1. Hatton on points

    21.9%
  2. Hatton by stoppage

    62.5%
  3. Draw

    1.6%
  4. Gatti on points

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Gatti by stoppage

    14.1%
  1. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Brit Ricky was 'gifted' a win in America with an American ref & 3 American judges? LOL Well that's your opinion.. IMO it was a fair decision.. best case scenario for Collazo was 6 rounds a piece. Hatton sent him sprawling in the 1st so still takes it. Hatton got the better of more of the rounds. Punch stats favour Hatton too.

    Collazo was a skillful southpaw & a natural welterweight. If anything.. moving up from 140 and beating Luis (& he did..) just shows that Ricky was not as bad as many claim. Throw in men like Malinaggi, Castillo, Tszyu, Phillips etc too & he quite clearly should be a healthy favourite over Gatti.

    Consider too that Hatton stopped Hutchinson in 4 while Gatti went the distance with him. Again, we all love Gatti but his best wins at 140 are maybe a 40 year old Leija & a guy (Branco) who lost to Hattons baby brother.

    If you want a back & forth over the Collazo fight instead though then I'll be honest, I can't be arsed, it's been done to death & I have potential corona virus symptoms so need to preserve my energy for masturbation with a carrot up my arse.
     
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  2. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Hatton can be walked into a sharp left hook, but I don't reckon Gatti exploits that. Hard to see past the Hitman here.


    That's how I had it, even in rounds with Ricky winning by the knockdown. I'm not going to take great exception if anyone scores for Collazo by a point, but the fight's reputation as a gift is overstated.
     
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  3. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is a difference between getting caught by one of the best punchers in the game in Manny and Gatti. I admire Gatti's toughness but he is nowhere near Manny in talent/explosive power. Hatton was strong enough to bully Koysta around and basically quit in his corner.
     
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  4. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    If we take the very best, most disciplined version of Gatti at 130 (the one who won the title, not the one who defended it), we can maybe make a case for Gatti having a chance in some P4P fantasy matchup, but Ricky was just a much higher caliber gun at 140. Too much footspeed, with great strength, nous and combination-punching expertise on the inside.


    Big Arturo fan, FWIW, and can state with no shame that I have all the Roots of Fight shirts bearing his name. :dancer2:
     
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  5. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    An old injured not had a real run in a while tyszu
    Caught him just like schenko caught wicky sliding
     
  6. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    No 20 year old aint winning the heavyweight title again
    They wont pit the prospects so soon
    Saftey first approach
     
  7. AwardedSteak863

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    Even that older version of Tyszu was way more dangerous than Gatti ever was or could be. I definitely think if Hatton and Tyszu met a few years earlier Tyszu would have won hands down. With that said, it was Hatton strength that wore Koysta down. He tried the same thing against Manny and got caught by Manny's unbelievable speed and power.
     
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  8. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Yep he struggled with movers
    Hence would not risk witter and the domestic loss
    He could of crumbled then
    Hence safely guided to the big time
     
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  9. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Hatton would maul and run over Gatti. Different levels - and it always surprises me how underrated Hatton is on this forum, but how overrated someone like Cotto is (for comparison).
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Hatton typically fares horribly in h2h match-ups vs. Cotto at 140lbs, incidentally. :sisi1

    Which is a little odd, because a solid-chinned, heavy-handed guy with a pipe busting pressure style is exactly what the somewhat glass cannon super lightweight version of Junito needed like a hold in the head. :thumbsup:
     
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  11. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    IMO Cotto's boxing skills are very overrated on this forum (they're not bad ofc, people just make out he's a master when really he jumbled between two styles, usually). I pick Hatton over him, for the reasons you stated etc.
     
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  12. The Real Lance

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    I think Hatton get's a little underrated here, but dude, Cotto's done more as a pro, beat the better guys.
     
  13. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I meant H2H, which is the debate here.
     
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  14. tinman

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    I don't rate Gatti. He's just not that good. He's not all that skilled relative to world level. He's not really even that physically imposing either. He's not particularly strong or rugged or tough. I can't think of many fighters who relied on pure heart as much as he did. His heart actually made a big difference.
     
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  15. tinman

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    I disagree. His boxing skills are not overrated. His natural athleticism and talent is though. His skill is sublime, but against the very best he couldn't come close to matching them athletically.