Richard Schaefer Promotions, Inc.

Actually with Richard not working with either Oscar or Arum, and being SHO exclusive... would probably mean less good fights made to be entirely honest.

Though he would probably be successful. Smart people who work really hard like he apparently does usually are.

 

Might as well name it Schaefer In-house Promotions where all fights are within his own promotional sphere. Mayweather would love that.

 

should call it Dirty-brit promotions

 

Richard D' Chauffeur Promotions

Alt haystack CEO

 

“I’ve given Bob several opportunities, and a leopard never changes his spots,” Schaefer said. “With Oscar, it’s sort of like, one day he hates him, the next day he loves him, the next day he rips him, then he loves him again.

“That’s OK, they can play those games. But what I’m doing, I’m running Golden Boy, and I think I’m doing a pretty good job, having built it into the leading boxing promotion company in the world. Last year was an all-time record year, and it did not involve Bob Arum or HBO. I’m proud of what I’m doing and I want to continue doing it.”

“We’ve delivered big fights,” Schaefer said. “Arum is up and down, switch on and off. You saw him ripping MGM [over Mayweather signage in the hotel on Pacquiao fight week earlier this month]. Then he thinks he can come back and say, ‘Hey guys, I want to make a fight here.’ It doesn’t work like that. He rips Mayweather, says people should boycott his [May 3] fight, then says we should sit down and talk about [a Pacquiao] fight. It doesn’t work like that.

“Maybe in his mind it’s OK because it’s about money to be made. But not everything is about money. It’s about relationships. And I value relationships more than I value money.



ya man...its in house cause ya know...schaefer just wanted it that way....lol.....when you run your mouth and badmouth another company.....you bring it on yourself....its one thing for fighters to dog each other......thats different....its another thing for the professionals behind them to start saying **** in the media...about fighters and other companies in the sport.....like richard said....theres more to it than money....these are businessmen trying to do business and make good fights.....

 

The relationship with Haymon certainly seems...odd, almost like he was ****ing another woman behind the back of his business wife. To me that's not how you do business. The relationship with his own company appears to have come second to his relationship with another individual. If it's good business to **** your own company then yes, Schaefer amazingly well. By not signing fighters to real contracts he's left himself and his previous employer bent over ready to be given the no-consensual screwing of a life time.

 

theyve been doing business with floyd for 7 years without a contract......and pretty good business i might add.......like schaefer said....last year was a record breaking year for golden boy(and as schaefer said "i didnt need bob arum or hbo to do it")....so the haymon/schaefer relationship seemed to work pretty good

was floyd ever gonna jump ship? that was never a threat.....things were goin pretty good there........what does it matter if al's fightes sign deals or not? he isnt going to take them anywhere else.....the relationship between them was mutually exclusive

people say "oh well if haymon isnt going anywhere then schaefer has all the leverage he needs to make his fighters sign deals"....the reality is its not neccessary for schaefer to do that ....and could only create bad blood haymon....he gets along with haymon great....they do very good business together and have a good working relationship...they trust each other .....whats the point of forcing the other guy to "do something" when it doesnt need to be done...it only can create animosity......"hey al..i mean you arent going anywhere right....were doing well....we have a mutually exclusive agreement here......but uhhh just cause i can man...let me make you sign your fighters to me...ya know...just cause i can".....thats not a good foundation for a healthy relationship....built on trust and honesty....

can oscar be "fuked"....sure.....the problem lies on oscar though....schaefer was doing pretty well with golden boy...on his own....without oscar...now oscar has decided he wants to jump in and be hands on now....if oscar didnt come and tell richard how to run the business he was hired to run for him.....schaefer would still be there...and itd be business as usual

like schaefer said man....bob wants to talk **** on the mgm and whatnot...and then expect to come back and say he wants to make a fight there.....he wants to talk **** on floyds fight and tell people to boycott...then he wants to act like they should sit down and talk about a pac fight......like richard schaefer said "it doesnt work like that with me...i value honesty and good relationships"......thats why he dont wanna **** with bob.....but oscars on his new kick of making amends and being friendly so he wants to kiss and makeup......

 

I don't understand.

What is the thread actually for?

To show support for Schaefer?

How does Schaefer starting up his own boxing promotion company mean more fights could possibly be made?...

More than what? Definitely not more than the current status quo.

Schaefer has vowed never to work with Arum, and in most likelihood will not work with GBP in the future if he is to stay working in boxing. So whatever company he starts is bound to work only with fighters he is on friendly terms with--read: Haymon's stable, and maybe co-promote with the smallish promoters like Duva, Shaw, DiBella and the Europeans.

How is this setup even better than the one before?

 

Consider Floyd the child. When the child leaves the coup, the parents have no reason to stay together. Floyd's not got long left as the proverbial glue holding the relationship together. Wasn't so much Floyd jumping in to bet with a new step father but rather everyone else jumping when Floyd retires. A seriously possibility.

 

sheisty promotions is the perfect name if he ever wants to create his own company.

 

You are either inexplicably making excuses for Richard Schaefer's professional lapses, or you are simply not thinking this through.

Haymon and Mayweather absolutely *******ized Golden Boy Promotions in recent times. Being its CEO, Schaefer was morally and legally responsible to ensure GBP was not getting screwed over by any third party, and to close the most advantageous deals possible in the long and short terms.


Haymon, as always, expertly dangled the Floyd fights to Schaefer as leverage and then proceeded to shamelessly **** GBP's business multiple times over.

It's a mystery how Schaefer never grew a backbone to stand up for Golden Boy's interests and demanded a signed contract for the fighters, Haymon's or not, that appeared in their cards at Showtime. And it's not as if Golden Boy did not have considerable influence themselves with Showtime and its head Frank Espinoza, their former lawyer.

Had Schaefer stood up for GBP's interests and acted as a prudent businessman should have and signed up these fighters in question now, what would Haymon and Floyd have done, go to Top Rank and sing Kumbaya with Bob Arum? Not in a million years! Floyd and Haymon had no other choice but to work with the other 800lb gorilla in the room not named Top Rank, unless they were willing to put up a shell promotional company to do the leg work and actual promotion of their fights--which entails a lot of hard work and might even invite investigations regarding anti-trust/fair trade violations, as Haymon had been labeling himself an adviser since his entry into boxing and would also then be a promoter in this case.

It is actually within the realm of possibility, that whatever benefit Golden Boy Promotions as a company managed to get from working with Floyd and Haymon, is virtually negligible, considering that one, Floyd had always emphasized in years past that he was his own promoter and only pays a flat fee to GBP to do the hard work of actually promoting his fights; and two, having the leverage GBP had with Showtime, they let Haymon run roughshod over them by letting his fighters appear on Showtime without contracts with them.

What was Richard Schaefer in power for as CEO of Golden Boy Promotions if he
could not even protect GBP's exclusive access to Showtime dates by insisting as standard procedure, as every prudent promoter should, that fighters sign Golden Boy contracts before being given the oportunity to appear in GBP's Showtime dates?

He could not even protect the interests of the company he was the CEO of, and yet you sing praises to the man?

 

What about Schaefer's contract? It does not expire until 2018................

De la Hoya’s lawyer Bert Fields released a statement to the Los Angeles Times indicating that Schaefer is contractually bound to Golden Boy until 2018 and that contract will be enforced.

 

So what?

Richard made alot of money without contract working with Haymon for years. You cannot tell me that the GoldenBoy was so dumb that he didn't know this was going on in his own company for years.

What was Richard going to do if Al didn't allow his fighters to sign? let money go out the window..you make a deal that is good for everyone and you all make money. GB has operated this way for years and prospered.

The Golden Boy knew that TBE and the Executioner was not sign to any promotional contract but he let Richard rock out like that and now it a big issue because of some lawsuit from Duva brought this all to public light. Another thing is Richard doesn't want to *uck with Arum..it's his right, the Golden Boy should know where his loyalty lays and keep Arum the hell away.


Richard didn't do anything wrong....while the Golden Boy was coking, Richard was building an boxing empire. GB will be in big trouble with the Golden Boy running it


Expect these fighters to bail (if they haven't already)


T.B.E
The Problem
The Twin Iron Man
The Hitman
Panterita
Swift
The Golden Child
Mayhem
Havoc
Aye Pee
Kid Chocolate
Mister
One Time
Showtime
The Bronze Bomber
Terremoto
The Beast
The Scorpion
The Dog
The Executioner

 

No, I don't even have to tell you, Oscar said so in his recent interview. He did not know GBP had no contract with those fighters that have been appearing in their cards.

Those big names, Hopkins, Mosley--they are part owners of GBP and apparently there is a different set of rules for them, that enabled for example Shane to go fight under Top Rank a couple of times. Floyd as he so eloquently stated before, pays GBP a "flat fee", so there it is. But the rest of the fighters, Schaefer had the leverage and the right to sign up, but puzzlingly did not.

He had the option and the negotiating power to either make money and protect his company, or just make money while bending over backwards for Al and company.

Yeah, so what if he chose to fuc* his own company? It's his own actions and he'll have to answer for them in a court of law if this comes to that. The problem is when people don't call them as they are and start sugarcoating things up for whatever petulant reasons they may have.

Don't say Richard Schaefer did not do anything wrong, when the owner of the company he's working for has already stated the actions of his CEO apparently aren't exactly on the up and up.

I have to admit I couldn't supress a chuckle after reading this. T.B.E? Really? Wow, you memorized by heart all the nicknames of, are they all Haymon's?

Tell me, do they pay you to be like that? Wait, do you have the TBE cap, and the matching jacket? Don't tell me you had to buy them... :rofl

Reading this is a little surreal. I wouldn't advise too much emotional investment, one's perspective is indeed bound to be screwed up...