Richard Towers says Juicin-J hits MUCH softer than The Tuscaloosa Windmill

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  1. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He looked weaker against Price.
     
  2. dinovelvet

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    Alexander Povetkin couldn't hurt Chageav but Lucas Browne dropped and knocked Chaggy out.

    Firtha took Povetkin the distance. Light hitter Fury stopped him.

    Povetkin couldn't stop 200 pound Marco Hock but pudding fisted Steve Cunningham could. Povetkin hasn't the power to put his fist through an inch of Sheetrock.
     
  3. OpinionOfACasual

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    His chin is also questionable.

    Price isn't known to have a decent left hook.
     
  4. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You were saying in another thread that povetkin has no advantages over Joshua and AJ hits way harder etc, you claimed it is a disgusting mismatch & that unless Joshua completely dominates and brutally stops him he’s been exposed as a fraud. Obviously we all know you were trying to set unrealistic expectations so you could tear him apart when it didn’t happen.

    Now you’re saying Povetkin hits way harder than AJ, so which thread were you lying in?
     
  5. Luis Fernando

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    Fury hits a lot harder than Povetkin overall because he's much BIGGER. Lucas Browne also hits much harder than Povetkin overall, because he is also much BIGGER in size. Povetkin doesn't hit that hard. His knockouts come from offensive skills and perfect set up, rather than great raw punching power.

    Povetkin arguably hits just as hard as Steve Cunningham. Probably ALWAYS did. And naturally, Povetkin is the same size as Steve Cunningham without the additional fat and chubbiness. The dude's a blown up cruiser weight / light heavyweight by modern standards.
     
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  6. Luis Fernando

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    No, Povetkin doesn't hit harder than AJ OVERALL and in an ABSOLUTE SENSE. I didn't claim any such thing.
     
  7. Luis Fernando

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    How?
     
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  8. It's Ovah

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    Think about that one for a moment.
     
  9. KiwiMan

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    That's true. However, when Deontay gets his opponent hurt he often goes into a wild windmill mode and throws illegal hammer blows and/or blows which land on the back of the head.
     
  10. Luis Fernando

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    So where exactly is Povetkin's mythical strength I'm unaware of?
     
  11. It's Ovah

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    It comes in a little vial.
     
  12. Luis Fernando

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    Strength = speed * mass or weight.

    So did the supposed 'vial' provide Povetkin with more mass and / or speed than Anthony Joshua?
     
  13. It's Ovah

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    More exposiveness, less tiredness over the course of a fight.
     
  14. Luis Fernando

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    You haven't answered my initial question yet. did the supposed 'vial' provide Povetkin with more mass and / or speed than Anthony Joshua?

    And

    Define 'explosiveness'!

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    How was his level of 'tiredness' any different at any fight from 2014 to now?
     
  15. It's Ovah

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    I don't consider him a harder puncher overall than Joshua so I'm under no obligation to answer that question.

    For the record though he's sharper and marginally quicker than Joshua, and strings together better combinations. That accounts for a good level of his success. He's also good at placing short, quick shots at odd times and from unexpected angles, which can catch fighters out (Duhaupas - double hook).

    I see from your above posts that you think along more or less the same angles, so I'm not sure what you're arguing with me for TBH.


    I define explosiveness as the rate and efficiency at which you can contract your muscles in order to perform a complex movement. Explosive fighters differ from merely fast fighters in that they're able to generate more coordinated energy in their body during the time in which they're throwing a punch, which allows them to punch through their target rapidly using the full force at their disposal, i.e. their power doesn't dissipate appreciably upon impact.

    Parker and Povetkin are both highly explosive fighters. Wilder is too, but his body mechanics and poor punch form don't allow him to exploit it as much. Joshua has a level of explosiveness of course (as does everyone) but he's more of a heavy handed type that relies on strength and weight transference to deliver damage.

    Povetkin in recent fights has looked like he's lost a step. Could be due to age, could be due to other factors. His KO of Price proves nothing, since Price is as fragile as they come. His failure to KO Hammer is the more concerning matter.