Richard Towers says Juicin-J hits MUCH softer than The Tuscaloosa Windmill

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Fascinating .
     
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  2. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So? What correlation do these two posts have?
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The same correlation you have to a gargoyle. I tested your knowledge on Povetkin on you failed the test. You don't know boxing , you only know the HW Blog , which is essentially an anti-boxing website.
     
  4. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Offensive skills such as timing, angles combination punching and short punching skills cannot be improved through any 'vial' as you stated. So that addresses your point about 'vial'.

    How do you prove that Povetkin was less explosive at one point and more explosive in another period? Or is it simply more accurate to infer that his explosiveness has pretty much remained the same.

    Why did Povetkin fail to KO Christian Hammer? Could the reason be as simple as Hammer merely coming to survive by holding and running and being willing to concede rounds, just not to get knocked out? Do you disagree with this? If yes, what eliminates this possibility?
     
  5. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    It's sparring. Maybe Wilder tries to take his sparring partners heads off.
     
  6. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Being a better knockout artist than someone else =/= you have more punching power than them.

    Mariusz Wach hits significantly harder than Povetkin. Doesn't mean he is as good of a knockout artist. Tyson Fury also hits harder than Povetkin. Doesn't mean he is a better knockout artist either. David Price arguably hits harder than Joshua. Again, that doesn't mean he is a better knockout artist.

    Knockout artist = someone with OFFENSIVE SKILLS + PUNCHING POWER.

    Someone with less raw punching power but better offensive skills can be a better knockout artist than someone who is less offensively skilled, but has more raw punching power.

    Povetkin's knockouts were never a case of him having other worldly punching power. Objective observation would indicate this. His power has always remained relatively the same.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Not interesting in reading your cut n pasted garbage off the HW Blog.. I stopped taking you seriously after you claimed Ferguson had multiple knockout losses prior to facing Bowe. Go back to seen Elroy.
     
  8. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What did I copy and paste in my previous post in this thread? I challenge you to pinpoint what I copied and pasted.

    is that you 'OUTSTOCK'?
     
  9. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    If the man can make Dillian Whyte and the British titls ppv then he would of definitely had Wilder on that platform.

    Considering that ppv has pretty much killed boxing's popularity I couldn't give a **** that someone's fighting on ppv.
     
  10. bbjc

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    Not sure I agree with towers. Joshuas an accumulation puncher because thats what he aims to be. He,s developing his skill level a bit. Its giving him the best chance of a long dominant reign that just relying on power. Wilder punching so much harder is more down to tactics than anything else. Ill add to that....wilder has hand picked opponents so far. Hes only fought one real threat his whole forty fight career. And that threat was very much selected for a reason. Their getting by on the opponent having the smaller reach. The opponent then has to come into him....the powers always gonna appear better because of it.

    Well see what happens if he does face Joshua. I say he goes into defensive mode and probably doesn't leave it all night. Joshua bigger, stronger, and overall the harder puncher and won't need to come into his range like Ortiz had to. Wilder won't know how to deal with it.

    Every single opponent of Joshua's has pretty much avoided a straight up fight...barring whyte and Cornish. They always take the back foot...pretty much tells you the guy punches hard.
     
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  11. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    That's more due to style more so than power. Joshua camouflage his shots. Throwing short and straight punches with great accumulative effect. Joshua doesn't even need to sit on his punches and over extend himself - because he hits so damm hard to begin with! This style is most successful because of that.

    If we compare them throwing straight right punches on a machine. I guarantee you that Joshua would come out on top.
     
  12. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Its not that simple. Foreman hit harder than Ali. Not the other way arround.

    Bolied egg vs raw egg at a window. Same size, same weight, same speed but still much different effect on the window.
     
  13. Birmingham

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    Lennox probably has the best right hand at heavy ever imo. Fast, hard, can disguise it. I have Joshua below Lennox and Wlad, but lets not forget, so far Lewis has done it against a far better opposition to Joshua, that's got to count
     
  14. Luis Fernando

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    It's not just about the weight alone though. It's about 'FUNCTIONAL' weight. George Foreman was more muscular than Muhammad Ali, despite both weighing roughly the same.

    Assuming exact same technique. The boxer with more functional weight and speed will punch with more power.

    A muscular +250 pound boxer will punch with more power than a 225 pound boxer. Assuming both have equally good technique and speed.
     
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  15. SmackDaBum

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    Wlad's had a sharper straight right than Lewis for sure. But they could very well be 1-2.
     
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