Ricky Burns v Liam Walsh Dec 15th

Course they won't. Harrison will be next, and there's still all sorts of domestic names Burns can fight instead to keep his promoter happy-Mathews, Crolla and Foster are the obvious three that spring to mind-plus there's a whole litany of 'tough Ghanaians' out there just waiting for a shot after going 6 rounds with Al-Hamidi.

 

Broners camp will be reluctant to make a fight with Ricky now after seeing the fights he has been involved in. People seem to assume that if Ricky fighting Liam Walsh still means a Broner fight next year, then this next fight doesn't matter.

Open your eyes guys, this doesn't help Ricky at all, nor does it increase the chance of a fight between Broner and Burns. This is a lose-lose fight for Ricky, just imagine the damage if Liam somehow springs a shock!?!

Broner will be ignorant and will keep going on as if he doesn't know who Ricky Burns is, his camp will have this De Marco fight, then look at either a rematch or a unification fight with Vazquez. If not one of those two, somebody else in the top 10. They will overlook Ricky because of the fights W-arren is setting up for him.

Sad, but its a realistic scenario.

 

I don't blame Broner for ignoring Burns if he does. What does he bring? Those epic battles at super featherweight? Or this super fight with Walsh?

 

Walsh is a developing superfeatherweight. If this was 2 years into the future I could see Walsh in a more deserving position. For me this is just unfair on Walsh. Burns gains nothing other than some money for a nothing fight and Walsh could suffer a loss which there is no need for. Everyone needs to get tested but when they rightfully get to that level.

My only explanation is that the rumblings about Walsh being unhappy with too much time out is true and Fwanks given him the big fight to keep him happy. Typical FW stuff, rather than consistent matchmaking, he juggles expectations and usually messes it up and his fighters leave him - Hatton, Calzaghe, DeGale, Bellew etc

 

broner has not beat demarco, its not inevitable he's going to win that fight!
anyway i disagree that broner will not want anything to do with burns just because he had an easy fight. ricky has a strap and broner will see ricky as an easy way to unify the division. broner and his camp have been shouting burns out since his superfeather days. broner even tweeted congratulating burns on his win over mitchell before calling him out again.

you talk like broner's some sort of p4p king, even tho you claim you dont. you've already been educated on here over broner's record. yes he's fighting demarco but dont **** on burn's opponents when that guy's resume is as padded as paddy in emmerdale.
i know you shouldnt believe what you read but whats been put out in the press in scotland is that the winner of burns vs walsh is virtually guarenteed a unification fight with the winner of demarco vs broner. i know you'll talk **** on that info but i think there's more chance its going to happen than not. feel free to come back and gloat if im wrong. :good

 

Just open your eyes for one second and take a look at the people behind the scenes in Broners camp. This isn't just any other fighter. :hey

I personally, don't think that if there was a close decision or where Broner has obviously lost a fight thats gone to the points, that Broner will not get a helping hand. I'm just being real.

I'm not talking him up like a p4p king, so just stop that BS, whether your reading all of what I've said, I don't know, but I've made my opinion on Broner quite crystal f*cking clear. It seems now that thats the sort of counter the Scottish fanboys are coming out with, when anybody says it how it is. "Oh your up his arse" "Oh your talking him up like the p4p king"

***** pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee

As for a "guaranteed" fight, I hope you are right, but we've seen and heard it all before, and the "guaranteed" fight hasn't happened. Just look at Amir Khans supposed fight with Floyd Mayweather after Danny Garcia. Rumor has it, that was the fight being lined up. Oh how it all changed in a blink.

I'm not being a dickhead, I'm being real, firm, but real and as they say, the truth hurts.

It's very possible that Burns doesn't get the Broner fight next year, he is a total nobody in America, and thats where the fight will be. F*ck what belt he is holding, if he ain't got any pull and has been fighting domestic level, which HE IS, they won't rush around to make the fight.

They'll fight who and where the money is, this is prizefighting. Ricky is not enhancing his reputation in America by being made to fight Liam Walsh, but that is W-arren at work, its not Ricky's fault. :good (as I've said before)

Ricky Burns deserves the best fights now, and its not his fault that he isn't getting them. W-arren has come under pressure on these boards over recent days, with people saying "He must leave W-arren".....so it's not just me here. :yep

If you want an example, Ricky Hatton had pull and was known in America before he went over, so a fight with Hatton in America was VERY appealing. Ricky Burns is quite the polar opposite, it's no different from Matthew Macklin or Darren Barker at the moment. Broner and his camp will be looking for the prize fights, the money fights, and currently there are people ahead of Ricky Burns in that department. De Marco, Vazquez, Abril even.

His :smh fanboys might not be able to take that, but it is the truth. Whether you like it or not. :good

 

you come across as a broner nut hugger because for 1 you assume he beats demarco. [no matter what you say its still not a dead cert] and 2 you say he'll want nothing of burns because of who burns has faught like broner has been fighting the best all his career. the broner camp has been happy to take the easy fights up untill demarco, do you honestly think beating demarco will change that? imo there's more chance he will go for burns than vazquez because they will see burns as the easier fight. up untill demarco there has been no evidence broner only wants the big fights. [well appart from calling out 'domestic level' ricky burns ]
if he really wanted the big money fights or the 'best fighters' he would have done it by now or at least tried harder, especially since he's the 'golden boy' with as you said ''people behind the scene's''

you do make some decent points at times but i cant help but find you hypocritical on certian points on the subject of broner and burns and there's also some real good posters on here who think the same about you on this subject.

we will see what happens 2013. well thats if the world doesnt end december 2012 :yikes theres nutters out there with even more outragous opinions than you bud :thumbsup

 

Tell you what, Sounds like an Unbeaten European champion v a world champion, not bad.
Who knows, Walsh is a slippery customer, may cause Burns some problems, plus hes got nothing to lose.

 

(the part in bold) Yes, because they're Ricky Burns :smh

Those same people still won't see what I'm trying to say, they never will. They are blinded in fanboyism, and they never will listen to the truth of the situation, because the only situation they exist in, is their own little box.

I don't tell you no wrong. :good

Ricky Burns should NOT be fighting domestic level, but of no fault of his own, he is! His next fight is 59th ranked Liam Walsh! I feel like I am repeating myself for the millionth time.

Ricky Burns is NOT domestic level, but the fact of the matter is, HE IS fighting at the level due to W-arren. So whichever way you look at it, CURRENTLY, he is domestic level, because thats where he is fighting at. And if sticks around W-arren and he keeps getting domestic level fights, he will continue to be domestic level and if one day W-arren gets him that TOP CLASS fight, if he falls short, W-arren won't be interested in him anymore. Thats why so many fighters have left his promotion, it may be ugly, but if Ricky wants it, he must follow them out as well, because his career is stagnating.

Ricky Burns should be taking on Antonio De Marco on the 17th of November, not Adrien Broner. But the fact of the matter is, he isn't, and whether or not it is Broners first fight at the weight, its straight in for the WBC.

Now thats the people behind the scenes that have got him that fight, the same people that have got him ranked top 5 Lightweight, without having one fight at the weight. :hey

Ricky Burns doesn't have that behind closed doors power, he is having to fight his way to the top......and he still hasn't got the opportunity. What does that tell you?

Because he is STILL widely unknown, regardless of him holding the WBO. There is a lot of paper champions, and in America, most of them just assume that is what he is. And because he has no real pull in America, there is much bigger prize fights for the likes of Broner, De Marco, Vazquez and Abril.

So even if Ricky Burns is the most deserving, he may well be at the back of the que.

Whether his fanboys like it or not. :good

Like I said, this is prizefighting.

 

Its a keep busy fight, & Walsh will be a nice scalp for the future.

Just like Alex Arthur when he beat a young Burns knowing that Burns was going to go on to be something special, now Burns is going to get a young prospect on his resume.

History repeating itself. Im quite happy with this tbh, cos Im pretty confident uncle Frank will deliver the Broner fight for Burns in the next 8 months. Walsh, then Scotty early next year & Broner in a summer blockbuster, thats what Im feeling.

Frank has been great for Ricky, just wait & see people!

 

Walsh then broner is what i herd

Fcuk scotty

 

He really won't, Walsh hasn't improved in the last two years at all, struggling with Appleby who isn't even top 5 in Britain says it all really.

It's a bold statement, but Walsh won't go further then Domestic level.

It's a terrible defence Dunky.

 

But he's not, the reality is Walsh was a Commonwealth champion at Super-Feather where he proved very little.

 

Still dont get you mate. You say burns is a domestic level fighter because hes been fighting at domestic level but you think he's above domestic level, you mean world class right? Well how does that work? How can you think he's world level if you also think he's never faught at world level? Going by other **** ive read you post saying burns needs to fight at world level to prove he's world level then thats more than a tad confusing mate!

 

You could be right BA, but when Alex Arthur was going on about getting Burns he always went on about how it would be a future big win for him, & its turned out to be so, and then some!

Arthur pissed me off at the time taking on a young Burns, but facing a prime Arthur never did Ricky any harm looking back! & to be fair to Appleby, on his night that boy is a handful for anyone. I still cant quite believe to this day that Walsh survived that KD & came back to win, so it shows Walsh has 'something about him' that I think Burns has seen!

Its not the fight I wanted to see, I would have preferred Scotty. Its a good keep busy fight for Ricky though, keeps him ultra sharp if Broner is next!

Thats the thing, back in the 90's the best UK fighters kept busy, so Ricky is to be commended for fighting more than twice a year. Its kinda old skool.