Ricky Burns vs. Terence Crawford RBR

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    1) Vazquez
    2) Crawford
    3) Abril
    4) Beltran
    5) Burns
    6) Moses
    7) Bogere
    8.) Gamboa
    9) Figueroa
    10) Estrada
     
  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was actually quite impressed with Burns' form over the first third. He defended himself quite well until Crawford shifted his attack downstairs.
     
  3. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    you cant put crawford ahead of abril. if abril beat burns, he stays at 2 but crawford beats him and overtakes abril....abril was ahead of burns...
     
  4. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was my point, Watt didn't give enough credit to the winner Crawford and shat on both fighters instead, weird really. Glad you agreed.
     
  5. jas

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    yea, burns looked good early....crawford must pack a punch given how burns was covering up at times
     
  6. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Crawford is good, but a tad bit over rated right now.
     
  7. The Akbar One

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    Guerrero would beat Malignaggi, and Alexander.
     
  8. second to none

    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seriously just watched the fight on a replay, how the **** is Watt stile employed is he a member of head of Skys family or something, woeful and soooooo biased tonight "Crawford isn't better Ricky just wasn't himself tonight" Really he isn't better yet won 9- 3 on my card and dominated Burns. Seems Burns "hasn't been himself" for his last 3 fights or maybe Watt Crawford is just way better and Burns isn't an elite fighter ****ing hate Jim Watt anyone can do a better job ffs.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I don't know that Abril should've been #2 in the first place, and even if he was it certainly wasn't an unshakable #2.

    All he's done in the last two years is beat Sharif Bogere. (after Bogere had been somewhat exposed and in many people's view gotten a gift over Ray Beltran in his previous biggest step up)

    Literally, next month it will be two years since his official loss to Brandon Rios, and his only ring appearance since then has been the UD over Bogere.

    In that same time Crawford has gone 7-0 (4) and his last four opponents have been solid (Prescott/Sanabria/Klimov/Burns) with the most recent being a 2-division longtime world titlist. Prescott, Sanabria and Klimov are up there, each nearly as good a W as Bogere, and Burns is undoubtedly better.

    ...and, bottom line, a year of inactivity should get you dropped from any reasonable system of ranking - which TBRB does. Abril has been inactive for a year as of today. (he fought Bogere on March 2nd of 2013)

    He was rumored to be facing Troyanovsky this month but I'm not sure that hasn't been called off. Besides, even if he were - as of today he is a year inactive, regardless of having something lined up, a year is the cutoff. PLUS, even if he fought & beat Troyanovsky he would still rank below Crawford.

    Prescott/Sanabria/Klimov/Burns >>>> Bogere/Troyanovsky.

    Three pretty good and one excellent win vs. one pretty good and one so-so win? Pretty clear for Crawford on quality, not to mention quantity (which is only bolstered when you toss in his few soft touch KO victories before Prescott in the last two years while Abril has fought once...)

    So he's out anyway, but even if he weren't he should rank below Crawford as of right now.
     
  10. jas

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    its irrelevant whether abril should have been 2nd in the first place, point is mcgrain had him 2nd so putting crawford ahead of abril for beating burns, who was the number 4 guy on the list, discredits abrils initial ranking.

    if you look at the guy at number 2 being "the number 2 man" similarly to how the champion is viewed, then you'll get what i am trying to say.
     
  11. Eastcoast

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    I want to get excited about Crawford but he seems to be missing that something extra. This has probably been the least exciting the LW division's been in a while. No one seems to really stand out. I could see Vazquez and Abril dropping a decision to the lower ranked fighters, while special talents like Linares and Gamboa seem to underperform.

    I'm hoping Garcia enters this division like Genghis Khan.
     
  12. Clydebank Blitz

    Clydebank Blitz Don't Be Scared Homie Full Member

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    I actually believe that Ricky Burns could beat Terrance Crawford. Crawford was terribly open to the jab, and couldn't slip it at all. Crawford did manage to put Burns on the ropes, but not through any particular skill. Burns just wasn't circling off of the ropes, and any pressure and he went onto them willingly. If Burns was able to throw combinations early, and keep them straight down the pipe, he'd have been able to take the front foot and it'd have been a lot different.

    I think Crawford will be quite susceptible to someone using their feints, and throwing straight punches. Burns wouldn't have needed much in his arsenal to be able to do this.

    Burns used to have great heart and a great chin. Now he's just got great heart. He was feeling the effects of punches hitting his guard. I also didn't like how he was being defensive in his corner when being told what to do. I know it's hard at times, but they have a better view than him and he should have too it in.

    Burns shouldn't fight at domestic level. He should fight in other countries at European / Rising Title Challengers level, and shouldn't fight in Scotland. The crowd got him a bit too hyped and it can effect him slightly, although it boosts his heart and courage I think.

    Overall, Crawford did alright, but someone strategic could give him a lot of problems. I don't know who's rocking around that level, as it's all confusing in my head. Burns and Broner were a certain weight, Burns moved up, Broner must have moved up, fought Maidana, who's facing Mayweather...that seems like Burns is WW in my mind :huh haha.

    But yeah Burns is still good, and Crawford is slightly overhyped.
     
  13. Barry Smith

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    Crawford was fighting away from home in a hostile environment, for a World title, in his first 12 rounder, against a much more experienced fighter. It's not surprising he was tentative and the other reason for this is I think that Crawford himself was expecting more from Burns and I think he was surprised at how limited Burns actually is for a belt holder and at how easy it ended up being.
     
  14. Clydebank Blitz

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    I don't believe in home town advantages. If anything, Crawford would have heard the boos and thought "Boo me? Watch me destroy your favourite!"
     
  15. Barry Smith

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    If they did have a rematch (which won't happen) a more confident and assertive Crawford would stop him.