Ricky Burns

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  1. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    A decent human being who is willing to do whatever it takes, even accepting fixes? Re watch the Beltran fight, he lost that fight by a landslide. Any decent honourable being would outright admit he was the better man, or at least given him a rematch.

    Burns did neither, he was happy to pretend that he was getting beaten solely on the fact that he had his jaw broken, as if it was thin air that did it.

    You and I have different standards as to what constitutes a decent human being. If he's on the television, and speaks like a commoner, then he's an angel in your eyes. I judge a man by his actions and what we have witnessed is a chancer who has milked his audience for everything.
     
  2. Sugar 88

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    He's a manufactured '3 weight world champion' but a good honest pro and clearly not a bum as certain idiots would suggest.

    I think it's ridiculous when euro/domestic level guys get labelled bums. It shows but a lack of respect and intelligence.
     
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    Another emotional blind fool. How do you know he is a honest? Every time he has got shown up in the ring, he has deflected away from it and pretended like he deserved to win.

    He's a bum because he only does well fighting bums. If he fights a capable fighter he loses.

    Please pray tell explain how he is not a bum?
     
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  4. Sugar 88

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    Well you think Euro level guys are 'bums' so there's no point in talking to you really is there? You're clearly a moron.

    And I mean 'honest' as in dedicated to his craft, a solid fighter. Something I can't imagine you'd know much about.

    And as for not beating anyone capable, I think Martinez, Kastsidis and Mitchell were all capable fighters as would anyone else with half a brain would tell you.

    And yep, they robbed Beltran but how many fighters have said they just won by 'robbery' post fight? Not many.

    Now with all your BS crushed, kindly **** off. Cheers.
     
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  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Did you even watch his last two fights before he fought the mandatory last night? If you did, then you would be too ashamed to even come out with such a ******ed message

    It firmly supports my point that Ricky Burns struggles against bums. Yes in his prime he was capable of fighting mildly capable opponents.

    However Martinez is the only one I would give credence to. Kastsidis and Mitchell(another domestic bum) I can't take seriously.

    You are another fool that has bought into the nice guy personage of Ricky, as a result you fail to see things objectively as you react with emotionalism at the slightest criticism. Even if you say he is honest and dedicated within his craft, why is he moon lighting? Why didn't he avenge the losses/draws in his career? An honest fighter does that.

    Listen to me carefully child, true fans of boxing know without question that Burns is a bum within the context of the sport

    Just check out the general forum, outside this british fandom sub-section, and you will see with your own eyes, that everyone laughs at Ricky Burns as a fighter. No one takes him seriously.
     
  6. Sugar 88

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    Actually you're right, I take it all back. He's a total bum and deserves no respect for his achievements whatsoever.

    He also works in a sports shop because he ****ing loves it and doesn't take this boxing lark seriously. He didn't get totally done over by Frank Worren or anything.

    Now do me a favour and search for 'Sarcastic Comedian' on YouTube. Then click on a video and watch it. Now copy that comedians tone of voice when reading the above. Got it? Good.
     
  7. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    He has done well for himself considering, but he should stop pretending that he is a ATG. it shows great disrespect to the true greats of the sport.

    We do not need to dilute the term for fighters like Burns, who hand picked his way to titles and avoided the best.

    We don't know what happened with him and Frank Warren, it's all speculation. How do you know Ricky wasn't reckless with his finances as to why he got caught up in bankruptcy? You immediately assume that Burns is the good guy simply because he is inoffensive in interviews and smiles at the camera.
     
  8. HerolGee

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    if this is true, then he must HATE himself for the chain of fakery he has helped pull off.

    You cant have it both ways. Either hes a happy fake, or genuine but hates his life. Either way, you are way off mark on your assessment of him.
     
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  9. HerolGee

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    to be fair, meeting someone in a media setup isnt the same as meeting them.
     
  10. HerolGee

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    theres a thousand actors who can put a genuine face on tv or in front of people. This bears no relation to how they are as a person.

    I'm just saying you dont know him anymore than anyone else does except those close.

    And in fact you must know all this about anyone if you are a grown adult.
     
  11. Sugar 88

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    Does he claim to be an ATG? I don't think he does. At worst he may claim to be one of the best Scottish fighters which is prob fair enough considering the dirge of top level talent up there in recent times.

    Anyway he's clearly not an ATG or a HOFer IMO but I think most people's criteria for both is too low. I also think people label fighters 'bums' far too easily.

    And with Frank Warren - who can thankfully now be named again on these boards - I thought it was pretty much resolved by the courts that Warren had been withholding due money and from other sources that he'd be robbing him blind.

    And it's Frank Warren we're talking about, he's an absolute crook. Everyone falls out with him sooner or later due to unscrupulous behaviour.

    And finally, yeah I have pretty much decided that his media persons seems to be a fair reflection of who he is. I don't have any reason to think otherwise. Do you? If you know something about Burns the rest of us don't then feel free to share this information on these boards.
     
  12. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    He doesn't deny that he is an ATG when interviewed or when there are numerous articles from his friends in the media talking him up as if he's the scottish Mayweather.

    From what I understood Mr Burns prematurely terminated his contract with Warren and rejected the opportunity to resolve the matter in person with Mr Warren.

    Meanwhile he was acting the snake and negotiating with Eddie Hearn. In summary his greed got the best of him and then found himself in that predicament which resulted in the court having to intercede to resolve the matter. Had Mr Burns been the nice boy that many paint him out to be, then there would never have been any hard feelings between the two parties.

    As for his personal, I think it's a fake. Like the poster above alluded to, if he was this genuine nice innocent little lamb he'd feel appalled at the accolades given to him, he'd feel it unworthy for some of the victories which have been awarded to him which have been at the hands of british corruption.
     
  13. Furey

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    Some serious guff being spoken in this thread, laughable.

    I had Burns winning the fight by 2 rounds. Relikh impressed me and a few more fights down the line, I think he has the tools to make some noise. Ricky Hatton has a good fighter on his hands.

    The first two rounds, Relikh looked the bollocks.. he finished strong also... but the middle rounds was mainly Burns.

    I still think he missed a trick by constantly swapping between orthodox and southpaw so early on... because after a few rounds Burns had it worked out. Orthodox was working early, had he kept it like that for a few rounds and then started to switch it around it would have gave Burns something new to think about.
     
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    **** me are you for real?
     
  15. Here's Johnny

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    Bang on imo