Ricky Hatton on Flintoff Depression thing on BBC 1 in 10 minutes

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  1. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I shouldn't moan Kate, its paid my mortgage for the last 15 years so it can't be that bad eh? :D

    I just question with celebrities how much is mental illness and/ or depression and how much is just being caught being an idiot and then making excuses?
     
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  2. skel1983

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  3. dftaylor

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    Em... he was just building up the fight. Anyone who took that comment seriously should seriously consider whether they should even have access to their own bank account, never mind have access to a bookie.
     
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  4. skel1983

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    If anything I would put it the other way round Harmison seems to have been struggling for ten years and kept away from the media.

    Hatton's came to light when he was caught sniffing and shagging a tranny in a hotel room.
     
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  5. skel1983

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    Here he is Mr Sensible :D

    I know the majority of people would of but still I thought it was a bit out of character maybe he said it because of how he really felt, but still a strange thing to say imo when you have been utter shite in the training camp and getting beat up by sparring partners.
     
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  6. Lunny

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    Obviously he used it as an excuse when he got caught doing that stuff. Still seems like he's genuinely been through it. The 2 aren't mutually exclusive.
     
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  7. dftaylor

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    What did you expect him to say? "I'm near shot and have looked **** since I beat Tyszu. Anyway, Manny has so many stylistic advantages over me I'd have no hope even in my prime?"

    Boxers aren't known for their humility pre-fight, they're trying to build themselves up mentally for the fight. Even the ones who use their fear of losing would never let it show.
     
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  8. ero-sennin

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    It was a good program IMO, very interesting to listen to them talk about their experiences. Hatton's coke usage may not have been due to depression but that doesn't mean he wasn't suffering from it.
     
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  9. skel1983

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    Fair enough that is your opinion, I can't see it at all.
     
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  10. roe

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    Thought that was a good lickle program actually :good

    As someone who is generally miserable-ish and often quite down about things without ever being really near to depression, it is interesting to hear how people who actually suffer from it have coped or tried to cope.

    It's obviously a serious thing and rich or poor, successful or unsuccessful, depression can hit anyone.

    I do agree with the slight lack of sympathy for Ricky Hatton though but Lunny is right that it is still connected in a way. Even if it is mostly excuses, that's what depression is. Of course there is no real reason for millionaire sportsmen living their dreams to suffer from any mental unhappiness. That's why it needs to be corrected and there needs to be enough good people around them to help them out when needed.
     
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  11. skel1983

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    Yes thats exactly what I thought he should of said. Never mind mate, we both have our opinion of the situation, you no too well I didn't expect him to say that but I just remember when he said the words about putting the house on me was a bit of an unusual thing to say.
     
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  12. skel1983

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    Graeme Dott seemed a nice bloke and he seems to struggle a bit.
     
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  13. trotter

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    Ooh that's a bit out of line for the Brit forums premier poster!

    I'm a firm believer that depression can get anyone. Look at gary speed. It's all relative. Drugs and drink don't help, agree on that. But I think if you've had the highs like beating tszyu in hattons case, it might even be easier to fall into a malaise when your career ends and you lose your youthful edge.

    Honestly think it should be taken more seriously, very much a first world, male affliction. But very real and very sad.
     
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  14. sniffmybadger

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    I can understand why rich famous sports stars can get depressed. Generally, people may get depression for what ever reason. But for athletes who reach the pinnacle of their profession have unbelievable highs with being successful, knowing they are the best in the world, men want to be you, women want to be with you. Tasting that success and then have it gradually disappear must be quite a hard transition, for a boxer it must be extremely hard as they have such a confident attitude. Hatton's demise was quite a sudden one too, he went from the highest of the highs (build up to PBF Fight) to the lowest of the lows (retirement and tabloid drug scandal) in no time at all.
     
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  15. duranimal

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