Ricky Hatton Reveals Why He Had To Let Billy Graham Go

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by scurlaruntings, Aug 10, 2008.


  1. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, maybe he was. So too were a lot of other fighters, Cotto, Mitchell, Kotelnik etc.. Personally, I can almost guarantee20 years from now Junior Witter will be forgotten about while Hatton is talked about. Bottom line, Witter is just used as a stick to beat Hatton with as there ain't too much else about. If he was from Sheffield, Australia rather than Sheffield, England nobody would have thought twice about him.
     
  2. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dear God! I didn't realise either Ali or Duran were ranked in the top 5 p4p at the times in question!!!
     
  3. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Perhaps not in the earlier days, but certainly when Witter got the WBC title. As a Yorkie, it would have been great to have had a war of the roses in something other than 20-20 cricket.
     
  4. GazOC

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    How about Bury-Leeds?;)
     
  5. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair point, as a Yorkshire-born Manc resident would have been some personal interest for me there as well. I just take a rounded enough view to realise it ain't gonna matter too much in the grand scheme of things, as opposed to the relatively minor domesti scene.
     
  6. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ermm, if you are going to debate, it helps if you actually type what you mean. That word actually makes a bit of a difference.

    I suspect you did mean that, you are an habitual liar, you can't help yourself. That must be 3 outright untruths already in this thread.


    As for your question, I'll tell you why. **** knows. That's why. I suspect it's risk reward, exactly as you suggest. It's nothing new.

    My point is that it doesn't even ****ing matter. I don't care. Witter is insignificant when you are assessing the career of a world level fighter like Hatton.

    If you made the Witter case about Corley it would look ridiculous. If he wasn't from Bradford it would be a non-issue. Says a lot for Junior that 99% of the talk about him involves Hatton.

    Oh - and I don't mind Junior. I just see him for what he is. Average and inconsequential when assessing Hatton.
     
  7. TFFP

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    Thank you. Never thought I'd see the day, it must feel good to have fresh air to inhale?

    So there we go, its official. Even from a guy that lives on his street as you told us. Ricky Hatton - smoke and mirrors.
     
  8. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Im aware of that. But that wasnt my point as you well and know. The comparison is valid because both fighters fought men who were shot. Neither win is/was held in any high regard. Naturally Kostya was in better shape than Duran and Ali of course BUT both had 1 foot in retirement. NOW THAT was my point as you were already aware of. Im not interested in a debate on moot preamble and stupid conjecture. Lets deal with the facts as they present themselves as even you know that if that was a prime Kostya Tsyzu the result would have been entirely diffrent. No one in there right mind is giving Danny Williams more credibility for beating a faded Mike Tyson. Hattons win is what it was. Which was a solid win over a faded veteran.

    To base an entire career on that is woeful. A career is NOT defined by 1 fight. Its definded by WHO you have fought over the length of your career. If when all is said and done and your ledger is full of bums and C and B level fighters then you can safely say that fighter found his level. If a fighter has fought many solid contenders and champions and done well in doing so ala Cotto then we can safely say his career is that of a great fighter. In less fights and in a shorter career Cotto`s ledger is already better than Hattons. Thats the diffrence between a fighter who wants to fight and one who picks and chooses his opponents.
     
  9. GazOC

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    Who is basing an entire career on 1 fight? Hatton has fought JLC, Zoo, Mayweather who were all Top 10 P4P in The Ring magazine at the time they fought Hatton, Maussa, Tackie, Magee are all decent wins. No ones saying every fight was against a top opponent but its a pretty good set of fights that stands up well against what most world class fighters were doing at the time, it certainly doesn't suffer too much from not having Witter on it.

    I hear what you are saying about Zoo having one foot in retirement but to use Ali and Duran as examples was exagerating in the extreme. If you were aware that Ali had Parkinsons when he fought Berbick why did you deny it in your last post?