Ricky Hatton Reveals Why He Had To Let Billy Graham Go

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by scurlaruntings, Aug 10, 2008.


  1. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    Fair enough you are not a fan of hatton we have gathered that but don't act like witter was the second coming because after him getting outboxed of a unknown american shows that even witter can have stinkers against unknown like hatton did against urango.
     
  2. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    WTF did Collazo have to do with it? O one minute he was a belt holder..
     
  3. TFFP

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    Point is, Junior Witter got to the #1 contender status in this division.

    He's British, and Hatton never fought him, despite Witter wanting the fight and despite there being ample opportunity. These mother****ers act like Hatton was tied up fighting top 10 p4p's every time.

    I can not think of anything like it in recent times, 2 Brits getting to that sort of status in their div and one point blank avoiding the other. It was completely embarrasing.
     
  4. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have I ever said that there was never a time when they couldn't have fought? You making rubbish up to try to win an argument.

    Urango was for a belt. Jesus, would you mind getting at least the odd fact right?
     
  5. TFFP

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    So why didn't they fight?

    WHY? :lol:

    We know why.
     
  6. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For one, it happens all the time. Castillo wanted a fight at the weight. They were showcasing oth guys before their big fight.

    The second bit, I can only assume you are taking the ****!
     
  7. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Hatton DID fight Zoo, Zoo had flattened Mitchell and Witter beat Corely, Judah had moved to 147. Thats leaves Cotto which was a fight neither fighter pushed for at the time.

    You really must do better than this Scura, 5 year old Ring articles where all the other fighters mentioned (bar Myweather) have been beaten is a pretty poor effort.
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    And both of them were ****!

    Not taking the **** at all - Witter was certainly worth a pay day more than Urango, Maussa or Lazcano. Espec Lazcano - who lost to Vivian Harris who was in turn schooled, outclassed and KO'd by Witter. He also held the WBC title at the time when the fight would have been signed - worth more than the IBO belt stolen from Lidl.
     
  9. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Oh come on. It happens all the time in boxing. Two fighters get wins on the same card with a view to matching them together the next time they fight.
     
  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    It does, and I have no problem with it unless you have a guy pulling the wool over people's eyes by saying Witter wasn't worth it.

    I am not going to turn round and say Castillo was shot though, because I don't believe he really was.

    I am trying to be objective here.
     
  11. TFFP

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    This is exactly the point - even you that I've noted as a slight (but objective) Hatton fan can realise. It's a very simple point.

    Hatton's resume is literally stacked with cans, outside of 3 fights. These guys will act like it was soooo difficult for Richard to fit him into his schedule amongst them, and will have ready made excuses for any fight you can pick out.

    Unless you mention WBU, and they'll ignore it completely and/or go onto the more desperate excuses such as not enough fans/money (isn't it always with Ricky?), Witter not exciting enough...feel free to add to the list.

    It's honestly a complete and utter joke.
     
  12. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    What an accomplishment. He beat Kostya who had 1 foot in retirement and was slated to fight Harris. Warren temped him to Britain and made Kostya and Ricky a shed load of cash. Hatton does the unthinkable and beats a shot veteran and has been living off this win in his fans eyes ever since. To try and sell this for anything more than what it was is absolutely disgraceful and throughly proves the masses of Hatton joyboys that follow him with no interest in the sport of boxing other than paying credence to a man who has done little other than lining his own pockets at the fans expense.

    He`s undefeated at 140? Ok lets put this into a real perspective WHO exactly has Ricky fought? His record WBU defences after being a veteran of 30 plus fights was nothing short of a disgrace. It was sold on SKY as world title action. He refused a shot at the WBO and at the WBA citing paltry excuses. Mooted bouts with prime fighters at the time like Cotto, Judah , Witter etc all fell by the way as Warren carefully guided his protege via the path of least resistance. And still true to form Hatton fights the aged relics of this world like Castillo and Phillips and his fans latch on to it and proclaim loudly that Castillo was a P4P great when Collazo beat him back to 140? We have heard a plethora of excuses form his fans and Ricky alike. Its the weight. He called me names etc etc. He got humiliated rightfully by PBF and then fights a faded Lazcano who was a career lightweight and hadnt fought in over a year and gets caught out on his feet?

    Ricky is exactly what he is which is nothing more than an opportunist and a classic right time right place guy. To try and sell him as anything more than that is an insult to all normal intelligience. Thus debating any point with any Hatton fan is always a fruitless excercise as there brains are capabable of stretching back further than the nose on there faces. If your going to sell me Castillo and Kostya as credible victorys then surely on this same premise Joppy and Trevor Berbick deserve there place in the HOF.
     
  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think you are being a bit harsh saying all but three are cans, but point understood. I am a big Hatton fan, but don't suffer fools gladly and feel the wool is being pulled here.

    I would say Tszyu, Castillo, Mayweather, Collazo, Phillips, Tackie, Lazcano, Pep and Thaxton are all decent enough (some great clearly) but the likes of Vilches, Pedersen, Maussa, Hutchinson, Pendleton, Bailey are all chumps :deal

    The Witter thing - I am sure people would buy a ticket for a Hatton fight (Yorks vs Lancs etc), he isn't exciting admittedly but I was always suffering from an erect banger every time Maussa or Pedersen walked to the ring :rofl

    To be fair TFFP, Calzaghe isn't without fault either - but there is less bull**** coming from Camp Calzaghe (other than from Enzo as expected)
     
  14. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    'Outside of 3 fights' again eh?

    And Urango, Maussa, Collazo, Tackie, Magee, Thaxton, Phillips, Lazcano

    A few faded, none very top quality but not 'cans'. No way. Sorry. 3 were legitimate belt holders at the time.

    You exaggerate every point and the rest you get plain wrong. Kinda suggests your judgement might be off too.


    And the pretentiousness of your opening line...what a dick.
     
  15. TFFP

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    Calzaghe is not without fault, but as I can recall he has never had a Brit rival constantly on his coat tails trying to get a deserved fight (or at least as deserved as any other of his opponents). Quite to the contrary, he fought Eubank, and he fought Woodhall to conclusively prove he was the best SMW in Britain.