Ricky Hatton's place among the British greats?

i remember that win of lloyds over rosi.wow he didn't half connect

 

Ok i never compared Hatton to Buchanan. If you want me to include Scotland then I would have Buchanan about on par with Lewis and Calzaghe. Lynch would have made the top 8 and maybe could have put Watt in the top 15.


Okay some of the brits you mentioned never evern fought eachother although some of them had rivalries. But that didnt matter Hatton fought some good fighters from all over Tszyu,Collazo,Castillo,Malinaggi,Urango,Tackie,Oliviera,Phillips, etc etc and a fight with the other top guy from N.Ireland Magee. All these guys were former champs or legit top contenders.(although ill will have to say Castillo looked old,and Phillips past it) His only losses were to the top PFP fighters in the world. They knockout loss to Pac though took him down a notch in most fans eyes,but i thought he was competetive with May up until the mid to late rounds.

 

i thought tackie was past it in the hatton fight .just an opinion

 

Well he was coming off 2 losses one to Mitchell and to Tszyu but he was still dangerousl, he could punch and had a great chin still, but his boxing skills were very average.

He is past it know hes more of tough journeyman type or someone that will give a good fight but lose to the House guy, but he has still never been dropped or knocked down one of the best chins in boxing.

 

yeah great chin and heart:good

 

:goodfair dos.
buchanan and lynch are elite level ,in my eyes anyway.i have wee benny as my No.1 flyweight and king ken as a top 10 lightweight.i've nowt against hatton i have met the bloke and liked him but its too soon to rate him in the classic section imo

 

He has beaten some very good men and won titles in 2 divisions.I think he is one of our best fighters and should get more respect than he does.

 

This means close to jack **** nowadays. Especially when you consider the win was very controversial and wasn't against the best in the division.

I think a better thing to say would be;He did well at 140, considering, and struggled in a fight above his best weight (twice, once against someone who was good)

Compare that to Jack Berg, who fought a lot of good fighters at lightweight and light welter, or Ted Lewis, who fought a multi-fight series with Jack Britton and even fought at light-heavy and Heavy.

He gets the right amount of respect if you ask me.

 

Ummm he did have a domestic rival who was chasing him for 10years but he ducked him

 

Tyszu - 35, 3 rounds in 2 years
Castillo - shot, and got a bit of a gift against Noudjo in his prior fight
Olivera - wasnt he 40 and struggling to make 140? Augustus easily beat him in his next fight
Mallinaggi - got a gift against Ngoudjo and maybe deserved to lose to Ndou too, zero power
Tackie - gatekeeper, ex LW, got shutout in his last 2 fights
Phillips - 39 and flew to England 24 hours before the fight
Urango - massive puncher, coming off a gift (notice a patern?) over some jewish Aussie, good win
Magee - didnt really beat anyone and lost to Ukral who wasnt great shakes himself
Collazo - only a titlist becuse Baldomir couldnt afford the sactioning fees, close win could have gone either way

So decent wins but certainly not top contenders for the main part

 

you forgot freddie pendelton who is the same age as ike williams

 

Lewis is way above Calzaghe, for the guy that said JC would be above Lennox

Hatton would probably slot in around 10-15 of a British list I'd say. Talent-wise probably lower, but resume generally isn't a strong point with British fighters, therefore he gains on that score, despite it not being all that great.

Benn, Eubank, Watson and Graham were all more talented, but none (IMO) have as good a slate as Ricky..... who benefitted from getting the odd guy at the right time, such as Tszyu. Phillips was a good win, he beat Kelson Pinto not long after..... it's neither here nor there really.

 

What an overrated, weakchinned bum this guy is. Truly the guest that stayed too long at the party. If the ref in England hadn't protected him the one time Lazcano had him seriously hurt, there may never have been the two superfights he got ko'd in.

 

About on a par with Dennis Andries.

 

Fitzsimmons, Lewis, Lewis, Wilde, Lynch, Winstone, Driscoll, Mills, Welsh, Hamed, Moran, Honeyghan, Calzaghe, Winstone, Buchanan, Benn, Eubank, Conteh, Berg and Turpin would probably all rank above him, wouldn't they? So not in the top 20 in that case.

Btw, that's not my top 20 or anything, just 20 random names chucked about. I don't have a British list, so I couldn't give a definitive answer. But I would expect if I did, I'd be placing him below all those names.