Rico vs the pre-90s giants

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  1. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis "The David Haye of Loma's Gay" -Edgar Allan Poe Full Member

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    The Rico we saw against Usyk vs Jess Willard, Primo Carnera, Ernie Terrell, Buddy Baer, Joe Bugner, Buster Mathis, Gerry Cooney and Abe Simon. He's not running through a gauntlet that could hinder his chances vs the next opponent. Just Rico in 1v1 hypotheticals against each of these guys.

    Does he dominate or does he get dominated ?

    Wins some and loses some, and if so against whom ?
     
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  2. slash

    slash Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rico couldn't even stand up for 12 rounds. Any one of those heavyweight that had an educated, strong uppercut stops him.
     
  3. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    Jess Willard and Primo Carnera were cleaned up pretty well when they lost their titles.
    I think Rico would beat them, not Dempsey style of course.
     
  4. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jose Santa would beat him easy. Victorio Campolo, Hank Hankison, Retzlaff. Would knock out Rico in less than 2 rounds!! Andre Anderson beats him easy.

    Y'all are bringing up a higher caliber of SHW then what is required to win.
     
  5. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I could see him beating Willard. But Cooney? No. IMO Cooney's left hook is too big.
     
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  6. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    I think he could spank the lot. Those guys just weren't very good. Guys like Willard are plain bad boxers and Abe Simon makes Willard look like Lomachenko. Cooney and Bugner might be a little problematic, but not beyond his reach.
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    If Willard sucked, how did he become undisputed heavyweight champion of the world? Before there was Mike Tyson, before there was Oleksander Usyk, there was Jess Willard.
     
  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Half that list beats his ass, anyone that appeared before 1940 is fair game
     
  9. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    Jesus Christ dude, have you seen footage of Willard fighting? I think the question answers itself.
     
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  10. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Rico would beat Willard easily, Carnera and Baer too. I think Joe Bugner beats him, Terrell would be a tough out, too. Realistically I think he just beats those 3.
     
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  11. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich 'Iranian flag green' reflecting pool Full Member

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    "Relatively, he's a scrub" - Skip Bayless.

    It is fairly obvious to me that when @BCS8 says that Willard is bad he means in the context of being compared to modern boxing. Willard is bad relative to being compared to more modern boxers such as a Mike Tyson or Oleksandr Usyk. Beating a past prime Jack Johnson is not good evidence that he would be competitive in more modern heavyweight eras such as the 1980s or 2020s.

    Before there was Jess Willard, there was Diagoras of Rhodes. It doesn't mean I need to favor Diagoras over Willard in a 1920s ruleset match.
     
  12. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean, Rico basically *is* Carnera. Big, awkward guy with some craft and mobility. Big and strong but not a particularly powerful puncher relatively speaking. Kind of a toss-up between the two based on what I've seen.

    I imagine over a shorter distance, I'd take Rico over Willard and Simon

    Mathis and Bugner were talented but inconsistent. I'd take Cooney over Rico for sure. Probably Terrell at his best beats Rico, too.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He fights like Wlad to me and Carnera looks like Vitali
     
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Oh ye of little faith
     
  15. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    You’re right but quoting Skip bayless is NEVER necessary lol