Rid**** Bowe: How strong was his resume

Obviously I'm not ignoring Fraziers victory over Ali but it just isn't enough. Wlad was a champion for a decade straight, beat a dozen more ranked contenders than Frazier and beat his opposition more convincingly. One win, no matter how good can't match that. Sorry.

 

Good because Holyfield is on it, otherwise poor.

Also, he should have two disqualification loses for intentionally hitting after the bell (Tillery, forgot the other guy's name) and a points loss the Tubbs. The Golota wins ar elegit but do him no favors.

A big dissapointment and very lucky to have the record he does. Still, I have a soft spot for the big goof.

 

Yes it is more than enough.frazier did beat the best oposition available ali included he could not do more, and absolutely no way wladimir did beat his oposition more convincingly,frazier did it by ko once and again,frazier was more dominant when he was the Champion,not even close

 

Frazier beat the best opposition available for 3 years. Klitschko did it for 10.

He fought top opponents for a decade, 18 straight defenses and he never lost more than 3 rounds. His dominance is insane.

 

I'd add Johnson to that list

 

Very good resume, great fighter is my observation. Pretty dumbed down, but I think it's a fair statement to make

 

I'm not sure he beat any top ten opponents other than Holyfield, Gonzales, and Golota. And I'm not sure if Golota was ranked until after he beat Bowe up.

I don't think Hide or Donald were top ten.


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I Am not talking about longevity,you could be defending during 30 years against bums it does not make you better

 

Well looking at Bowe's best wins...

Holyfield
Tubbs
Hide
Seldon
Golota (though I don't count these wins, Golota threw these fights away)

His resume clearly lacks depth, remove Evander and his record is simply that of a paper champion, but he did beat Holyfield and did so twice and you can't say having 2 wins over an ATG is average, so Id say above average.

 

More convincingly?? LOL. Reel it in son , reel it in.

This man with life and death with Sam Peter ffs. He couldn't even beat him without the usage of outrageous fouling in the rematch. Watch Peter vs Helenius to see how easy he is to dominate. Wlads showing made Robert look like Ali.

Frazier didn't have no tag team partner he'd call in to avenge his losses for him. And Frazier didn't get off fighting the man of his era cos he was his brother.

Wlads reign is built upon very weak foundations. He had to constantly rig the sport and fight dirty to stay above the the weakest dossier of heavys and non heavys the sport has ever produced.

 

I quoted the wrong man. Pugilist_Spec that post was for you.

 

And why exactly did he throw away those fights when he quit twice?

Nobody says Grant didn't deserve the win against Golota. Or Holyfield when Tyson tapped out on an ear bite.

 

The Grant fight is just another example of Golota throwing winnable fights away and even then Grant wasn't getting horribly beaten like Bowe was, especially in the 2nd fight.

The Bowe/Golota fights have to be looked at in context you can't just look at the result and say Bowe won and was the better fighter. But then clearly Bowe was way past his best and you can't say Golota's effort was against a version of Bowe that was comparable to the man who won the title.

So did Bowe deserve the win, yes he hung in there until Golota imploded but lets be real Bowe didn't win those fights, he just about survived them.

 

So much depends on what one thinks of Holyfield because after that it is exceedingly thin.

 

I think Grant was gonna stop Golota anyway. He was getting rocked and starting to gas.

And Tyson wrecked Golota. Broke his face or skull (?) and gave him a concussion. I think there was a neck issue too. It was worse than it looked.


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