Rid**** Bowe: How strong was his resume

And? Hide was a heavy hitter.

Vitali lost 70% of the Hide fight.

Bowe won 100% of it.

 

lol, oh Dino atsch

 

Dino's deadpan delivery is what makes him great. Sometimes I fall for it and I take a statement he makes at face value, only to be embarrassed later when I discover it's not true

 

Exactly

 

Not only was it a different hand, it was delivered by a fighter 5 years older who was clearly not right on the night he dropped Bowe. The Holy who kayoed Buster was razor sharp; the Holyfield who dropped Bowe so heavily was raising concerns for his own health.

 

:d

 

Holyfield stopped Douglas with a right hand.

 

Bowe never realized his potential .a lack of disciple and focus cut his career short.iam a big fan of Lewis and he is a better fighter than bowe overall but I think if they met in the early nineties I think bowe could of won he was more professional than Lewis at the early parts of their careers and could have outboxed him .I thought bowe could be the next Holmes he had the skill and power but not the disciple to stay at the top .

 

His jab was ATG but overall his laziness made him into a average fighter.

 

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And what about Shannon Briggs ( whom you specifically stated you'd pick over him? ). I remember watching a prospect showcase on HBO back one fine evening in 1996.. Briggs was hyped plenty.. That is until he got poleaxed by the obscure Darroll Wilson.. He was later beaten by sedrick fields and arguably gifted against a near 50 year old foreman.. All this happened in the midst of his prime.. Sure it looks splendid on paper that he has the most first round knockouts of anyone.. But when those KO's are against the garden variety 10-12 trial horses it sort of loses its Flare.. And Morrison? Isn't he the guy whom you regularly take apart at the seems? The guy who got sparked in ONE by Michael Bentt, hammered by a 16 fight mercer, decked twice enroute to a draw against an 8-8 Ross purity and fought life and death with old Williams and Joe Hipp?? To be clear, I agree with you that hide and Gonzalez weren't stellar opponents, but to call them "hype jobs" while overrating Morrison and Briggs and still keeping a strait face is contradiction at its finest...BTW, I'd give Herbie Hide about even odds at beating both the duke and the cannon... Hell he hospitalized Bentt into retirement right after Bent humiliated Morrison..

 

Yes,the resume of lewis is much better than bowe's apart of the holyfield wins

 

Jorge Luis Gonzalez has no credible wins of note but I think he was better than Audley Harrison.
The actual fact of the matter is that Gonzalez came up against a prime version of Rid**** Bowe and a year later he came up against an in-shape and resurgent version of Tim Witherspoon (the best he'd been in YEARS). These were TOUGH fights, ruinous ones. Who else in 1995-'96 would have fared well against those two particular fighters at that time ? There can't be many.
By the time Gonzalez fought Grant he was almost certainly diminished force.

 

Witherspoon was a decent but beatable fighter at that point. You're giving him way too much credit. Gonzales lost because he never developed any defense for the overhand right because he never developed a pro style and got hit with the same punch over and over until he wilted.




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Being called better than Audley Harrison isn't exactly much of a compliment, it's like calling a boxer less chinny than Amir Khan.

Perhaps it's a harsh comparison but I think it's apt. He was another amateur star who was a big flop in the pro ranks.

Bowe may have been at an age where he was in his physical prime but his excess weight was making him a diminished force when facing Gonzalez, he definitely wasn't the same fighter that beat Evander just a few years before. He struggled with Hide prior to Gonzalez and was even dropped by an ill Holyfield the fight after Gonzalez.

But I agree Witherspoon was resurgent at the time on a good run and gave Mercer a real tough right in a losing effort in his next fight.

I think it's an assumption to think Gonzalez was ruined by those 2 losses to Bowe and Witherspoon. He lost the very next fight to Purrity after Witherspoon and never did anything before or after these losses to suggest he was ever a real contender.

Gonzalez never beat anyone of note, even a gatekeepers like Arreola and Kevin Johnson at least beat up the odd undefeated prospect and former top contenders or title holders, looking at Gonzalez's resume you can't even say he was a gatekeeper.