Rid**** Bowe: How strong was his resume

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Look at Gonzalez weights blow up after Bowe.

    He pretty much gave up after Bowe trounced him.
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    Witherspoon had a good year in 1996. His last good year and his best in several years. Probably deserved the decision over Mercer, who was coming off a very close fight with Lewis.
    Destroyed Al "Ice" Cole's hopes of heavyweight success too.

    I'm not saying Gonzalez was great or anything special at all. I'm saying he gets dismissed from Bowe's resume too readily, while similar fighters who are on LL's resume get noted as decent fighters.
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    Well, I'm only comparing him to guys like Tommy Morrison, Shannon Briggs, Zelkjo Mavrovic.
    If those men were decent scalps for Lewis, then Gonzalez was decent too.
     
  4. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    you give too much consideration to Bowe's fight against Gonzalez.

    Gonzalez struggled in the Pro's however, because he had a great am career and is 6.7 you try to make him out as a great pro, he wasn't.
     
  5. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Considering that was 13 years after Witherspoon's career best performance, I'm struggling to see the correlation. If Gonzalez was about today, he'd be dubbed the next best thing in the heavyweight division by half of this forum based in size alone.
     
  6. Brighton bomber

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    He was 225lbs when he was KO'ed by Puritty, 12lbs lighter than when he fought Bowe, that doesn't seem like a fighter who just gave up after a couple of losses.
     
  7. Brighton bomber

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    I honestly think Briggs and Morrison were better, not by much but they were better. Morrison drew with Puritty, while Puritty KO'ed Gonzalez.

    I don't think Mavrovic was a decent scalp for Lewis, Mavrovic beat nobody of note before and never fought again after. He would be one of Lewis worst defences along with Jackson.

    If Lewis beat Gonzalez when Bowe did, it wouldn't even rank as a top 10 name on Lewis resume, but it's arguably top five for Bowe, which just goes to show the lack of depth on his resume.
     
  8. dinovelvet

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    He was 250 one fight before against Witherspoon. No wonder he got stopped dropping weight like that.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    I think perhaps Morrison lost to Purrity but was gifted the decision.
    Morrison was KO'd in 1 round by Michael Bentt.
    This was all BEFORE he fought Lewis.
    The difference is Gonzalez was unbeaten going in against Bowe and the beating he suffered in the fight I believe depleted him.

    Briggs had been KO'd by Darroll Wilson.

    Yes, Bowe's resume lacks the depth but in the period 1992 to 1995 he faced Holyfield three times, and beat him twice (and the loss was the closest of the fights).
    Holyfield was probably the best available name of the era. It's between him and Lewis.
     
  10. dinovelvet

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    And yet Lewis still had an uphill struggle with Mavrovic . What does that say about Lewis.

    At least Bowe knocked Jorge into next week in a one sided demolition job.
     
  11. latineg

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    Gonzalez again???

    wow :lol:
     
  12. N_ N___

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    Who on Lewis' resume is similar to Gonzalez? Don't say Grant, Briggs, or even Akinwande because they accomplished more. Are you saying Mavrovic and Gary Mason?




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  13. Seamus

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    Gonzalez was Pete Rademacher v 2.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    Briggs didn't accomplish anything. He needed a gift to get past Foreman.
    The point is not "career accomplishment" anyway. The point is HOW GOOD WERE THEY when they face Lewis/Bowe !

    Gonzalez stepped up from facing nobodies to facing Bowe and got beaten up. His next test was a VERY GOOD VERSION of Witherspoon.
    I think it is highly likely that Gonzalez was good enough to go 35-0 against more nobodies and with a few has-been names on his resume if he hadn't taken such steps up.
    Gonzalez might well have outpointed Foreman in 1995 and 1996.

    I'm not convinced Tommy Morrison would have beaten Gonzalez in 1995 either.
     
  15. N_ N___

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    Gonzales and Morrison both sucked. You're comparing one of Lewis' worst wins to one of Bowe's best. But at least Tommy beat Old Foreman and a shot Ruddock (prematurely).

    You want perspective? Witherspoon hadn't stopped a contender since Bruno in 1986 prior to facing Gonzales.

    Briggs split rounds with Foreman. He didn't just get his ass kicked.


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