rid**** bowe is maybe the best hw h2h!!!

Well i looked into the situation in great detail and it became very clear under research that Bowe and Newman were at loggerheads with the WBC - receiving many un-meetable demands from a challenger in what looked a clear cut case of one pricing themselves out.

Lewis didn't want any loss to Bowe. And i think he would have got one. He had better options. Like a crazy sum of money to fight Tucker.

Look at the first 5 mins of this video as a reminder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCHVgNh32PM

 

Liston would get rag dolled in there.

Foreman too wouldn't like being the smaller man with the firepower coming back at him. Tyson would struggle at mid range with Bowe's uppercuts and hooks. I give both of those decent chances but they are genuine 50-50s

Obviously Holmes is too quick.

 

Arguably past his best in the first fight at 30 and balding actually, he certainly didn't have the same stamina of his youth.

 

You utter moron

 

Bowe didn't want it in 92. Lewis didn't want it in 96.

If both were desperate for the fight they'd have made it happen.

I think over a career they'd have gone 1-1 in primes and then obviously post prime Lewis smoked post prime Bowe.

 

I always maintained Holy was better in his CW days. Blistering pace, combinations and a killer instinct that meant he could hunt a man without fading.

 

I was implying that he might have done worse, against Tyson and Lewis.

 

What?...From 1967 to 68 Jimmy Ellis defeated some of the best of the heavyweight division. He may have done better against Frazier if it wasn't for the 17 month layoff going into the fight. Bad enough fighting Smokin' Joe, but also fighting ring rust can't help. Ellis wasn't the huge heavyweight we see today but the man had world class boxing skills.

 

Bowe comes in close against Liston and Foreman and their power trumps his so I pick them by KO.

Very close because Bowe is durable and realistically could out gun them as you say. He deffo doesn't jab his way from range as a man of his stature should do.

Yes but Holmes liked to mix it up and Bowe has a better inside game. Prime Holmes dancing from the outside would be a slight favourite but whenever he gets tagged he comes in and swings and that gives Bowe plenty of opportunity to score punches.

 

I get what ya mean mate. I'm just saying that some seem to think he comes out the better from the holy series. For me it's dead even.

 

True. You and McGrain were right . Im not sure why i went down that road.

 

Bowe was a special talent. Havent seen a big man fight inside like he could since. He also had a good jab and outside skills when he wanted to.
Gonzalez was a hype job but he beat the hell out of that guy and given the circumstances surrounding that fight, it was one of his finest nights and it would be his last stand. One of the best talents, but dam a lazy lazy guy. Too good too short of a run.
Lewis wasnt scared of him, but he would have gotten whooped by Bowe if they had fought after he won the title.

 

1. Bowe isn't full 6'5".
2. He was fat when he was about 240 pounds.
I think he never was a classic ripped 240 or heavier fighter.
3.In his prime he was **** (two times) against the mediocre Golota.
4. He couldn't knock out a skinny 205 pounds for 6' 2" Holyfield.
All in all Bowe was mediocre i think his "greatness" is based
on the cherry-picking.