Riddick Bowe vs Vitali Klitschko

A prime Bowe defeats Vitali. He has a better and more varied skill set.

 

**** me raw................... Look............. All I'm stating is, Buster D. had the damn fight going his way in '87......... Tony Tucker looked clueless and ordinary against Douglas on the undercard of "Tyson-Thomas." Buster Douglas had the tools to beat Tucker, but his conditioning and stamina betrayed him once again......... Douglas was a lemon / flop, cuz he was a lazy slob for the most part of his career but, the guy had talent / skill....... Deep down, Douglas was better than Tucker....... But Tucker did have better training habits......... Cheers...........

MR.BILL:bbb:hat

 

Thats kind of part of being a top fighter though. Its not all about talent. Toughness, training, discipline, etc all part of it. Douglas didnt have what it took in the trenches most times, he just wasnt interested in getting into a deep tough brawl. If he was, I believe your right he would have acomplished a lot more, because he did have real good skills, and you saw what he could do when he was willing to fight against Tyson.

 

I already said Buster was a lazy slob............... That was his problem........ Still, like others such as: "Tubbs, Page & Dave Bey," Douglas had talent, but no real eye of the tiger................. The "Tyson" fight of '90 was Buster's BEST and ONLY great showing.............. Peace....

MR.BILL:thumbsup

 

Your right. I wonder why that group was so dam lazy, with the talent some of them had.

 

Douglas fought well vs Tucker but Tucker hung in and wore him down.

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Wrong, plain and simple. I agree Buster had more talent, but he sure lacked that x factor excepting mainly for one mysterious night where all the stars seemed to align his way, both via himself and Tyson.

 

Johnny Boy,

GODDAMMIT! Yes, Douglas had the talent and skill to win, but he was a slob and lost to Tucker in '87............ I know that................ BUT! If Douglas had better drive and focus in 1987, he'd have been the IBF chump back then instead of 1990............... Tucker did NOT beat Douglas; Douglas LOST!!! Douglas PISSED me off hard on that night............ I have the fight on tape.............. ****in' Buster simply had no more gas after round 6 and fizzled in the middle of the road............ Why? Cuz he was a lazy slob and trained like a wussy for Tucker.............. BUT!! The Sum ***** had the talent and skill to win, just not the drive or focus............. ARGH!!!
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MR.BILL

 

I recently watched that fight on YouTube. To me it didn't seem like Douglas gassed, but Tucker simply caught him with a very good combination that made his body say "**** this, i'm out of here", even if he was still standing. For instance, in the beginning of the round when he suddenly deteriorated, he was still pretty quick with the jab and defensive reflexes. He didn't look like he was staggering around the ring from tiredness, to me.

It seems to me that the "Douglas running out of gas" has become urban legend over the decades since, but in my opinion, Tucker genuinely TKO'd him (as much as i like Douglas to win).

 

Is there hidden messages in all those dots? Some sort of boxing morse code? :hey

 

Jesus, I'm going back on memory, and I MIGHT need to pullout the tape for review, but I think I recall where Douglas did complain in the corner prior to the stoppage that he, QUOTE: "I Got Some **** In My Eye." UNQUOTE...... Douglas did say that...... Now, what was wrong with his eye??? Was it a hair, vaseline or Tucker's jab / thumb???

MR.BILLbbb:huh

 

Stylistically, Bowe matches-up poorly with what we have been seeing from Lurch on his comeback. His arching overhand right would be deflected by Vitali's well-timed left arm as we saw over and over again with Arreola. Bowe never had a straight, short right hand....and even if he did it wouldn't help him with Vitali....again given the styles at play.

Bowe often shuffled forward behind his left jab and then threw that arching right. His left jab would be his best weapon with Vitali. His inside game wouldn't even be a factor.

For Klitschko's part, he likes to throw combinations, and I think after the first three or four rounds as Bowe becomes more frustrated he'd be landing them.

I'd bet the farm on the 38 year-old I saw a few months ago over Riddick Bowe.

 

Excellent observations. I agree completely. Bowe was often very sloppy with his right hand and Vitali won't give him the chance to go wild on the inside. Unlike the streaky Golota, Vitali can also keep that frustrating 80 punch output up round after round and finish the fight.

 

The overhand right that Bowe throws works even better on tall opponents. Its easier to land. has Vitali ever faced a 6'5" guy that comes forward and throws bombs and does it pretty good? Why yes, it was Lennox Lewis... Bowe's game was exactly the fight that Lewis instituted against Vitali. Vitali doesnt have a good pumping jab that keeps fighters at bay either. Bowe would be up in his chest quicker than Lewis was, and then Vitali would fall apart.

 

Well, Bowdacious looked great against Jorge L. Gonzo in 1995 on HBO, but Gonzo was merely a hulking amateur with many flaws............ R.B. looked great cuz of the match-up............

I doubt Bowdacious would find Vitali Klit that easy to find and reach........ Vitali Klit has more skill and determination than Gonzo ever had............ That also goes for Golota too......... Klit eats BOTH "Gonzo & Golota" for supper............

I see Bowe as dead meat against V.K.

MR.BILL

 

That arching overhead right only gets there if it isn't blocked....and Vitali WOULD block it.

Shall we take this the whole distance?

The fight would never have happened. Vitali's KO percentage is too damned high. Riddick left the punchers for Lennox to handle.