Riddick Bowe vs Vitali Klitscho

Frazier was NOT shot at age 29......... Frazier had a lot left in 1975 at age 31 against Ali in Manila........ If anything, Frazier had just whupped ass on Jimmy Ellis earlier in '75 and looked fine in doing so........ Styles make fights.......... "Ali & Foreman" simply had Frazier's number........ Even in 1976 at age 32 and 224 pounds with a bald head, Frazier could've whupped ass on many contenders at that juncture; just not Ali or Foreman... Perhaps Frazier would also lose to a '76 version of Kenny Norton too, but Frazier was still top-10........ I'd guess by mid 1976, Frazier would be well ranked at about # 5 in the top-10......... That's fair........ Peace....

MR.BILL

 

If Bowe,s defence was that bad how come Gonzalez couldnt penetrate it?
I think Bowe squandered his talent ,by lack of self restraint,whereas Vitali has acheived wonders with a very wooden stance and overated power ,one is an over acheiver the other a nearly man ,a what if he had stayed in shape guy?

 

Agreed. Riddick Bowe is simply way too technical and skillful of a boxer for Vitali to beat. We are talking about a monument difference in natural talent. Wlads a much better matchup vs bowe, because Wlad has skills and technique his brother does not have.

Bowe TKO 11 or wide decision

 

:shock::shock: Fighting Weight, That quote right there should go in your "KLitschko fan quote of the week".


A champion who FORFEITS his title on the stool with 2 rounds to go while ahead on all 3 cards vs a harmless featherfisted cruiserweight, cannot be questioned??? :shock:

 

There's no doubt in my mind that VITLAY wanted to quit in that fight, no doubt whatsoever. He didn't object when his corner were stuffing his eyegina up with cotton wool after round 6, that was a clear indication that the fight was over.

The hissy fit that came afterwards was just a face-saving (lol) exercise that's all - he knew perfectly well the fight was being stopped long before he started flapping his arms around. Reminded me of a schoolkid that gets a good beating then throws a couple of token punches just as the teacher breaks up the fight.

 

I rate Vitali H2H, but Bowe is the better fighter.

 

I've got to admit it's a good one.....I expect to get much better once the weeks out

I'm not sure whether I'll get better quotes if VITLAY wins or loses though. If he wins we'll have the usual "VITLAY is a top 2 ATG HW, and so is WALDO" bull****, but if he loses we might just a few more excuse gems like we got after the Lewis fight :happy:happy:happy

Besides which I can't start any more quote of the week threads, Mendoza might retaliate with another "player hater quote of the week" thread, and I'm scared

 

Is it hell a good one.

I expected better from you anyway.... the amount of times I have backed you up in the usual ''Klitschko would have KO'd Lewis in the 7th'' threads.

All I was doing was seeing the sense in the thoughts of another poster, who IMO raised a valid point.

Read my prediction on the first page :yep

 

**** NO!!!! Klit was more than WILLING to carry on against Lewis in 2003......... Klit did not quit against Lewis... Not at all........ Klit had TWO wicked cuts above and below his eye....... The doc and corner sorta' tossed in the towel based on the cuts; not the fight itself......... And, at any rate, most scoring fans at ringside had Klit up 4 to 2 against Lewis over the 6 rds fought...... In the end, due to the cuts, Lewis won the fight, but Klit won the night...... Nuff said.......

As for Klit quitting against Byrd on HBO back in 2000, well, at that time V.K. was a nobody and nobody really cared what Vitali did back then....... That was a totally different Klitschko, in a mental and financial state of mind and being...... Cheers...

MR.BILL

 

Golota against Bowe keeps playing in my head.

But Vitali's struggles against possibly the worst Lennox Lewis that ever fought is playing in my mind as well. I hold the opinion that Vitali was on his way to getting stopped by Lennox before it was stopped on cuts. I think that Bowe is in trouble against skilled SHW's with his style, that's why Lennox was such a bad matchup for him. Lennox is in my opinion the worst matchup for him imaginable, and he knew it as well, just bad luck they came along at the same time.

But Bowe was SO hard to get out of there. Golota has solid power and was hitting Bowe with everything he had and Bowe was still fighting on. The idiot just didn't know when to quit Bowe is the more well rounded fighter and the much better inside fighter, but Vitali has the sturdier chin and the style to beat Bowe.

I'll call this a tossup.

 

I think people are too rough on Vitali for the Byrd fight. It's easy to sit here behind a computer and say 'Fight to the end! Joe Louis never would of quit!". Which is perhaps true, but this IS a sport, and you see people in other sports getting injured and sitting out with lesser injuries than what Vitali suffered.
It's not like Vitali was starting to get beat up a little bit and threw in the towel, he was dominating and injured himself. If it was for the HW title, yes he deserves to be slammed, but it wasn't, it was a fight in which he wasn't known yet and really didn't have major consequences. The Lewis fight should of erased any doubts about his heart, you don't take those bombs without being tough.

 

Relax, I haven't made a quote of the week out of it have I?

I do disagree though. Fighters with mental strength don't quit in the circumstances VITLAY quit in. If it was an early fight of his and quite meaningless he'd get a bit of leeway like WALDO does for getting his chin shattered by Purrity but quitting in a title fight like he did was a major black mark against him.

It amused me no end to see the Klitschko fans abusing Peter after they fought, the hypocrisy was stunning.

 

A few other fighters went the distance with Lewis, taking those bombs for 12 rounds. Why is VITLAY considered so tough for taking them for half a fight :huh