Riddick Bowe vs Vitali Klitscho

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    The talent disparity in this matchup is extremley wide. Bowe is just so much the better more proven fighter.
     
  2. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I think so too. Bowe was excellent on offense (outside of the jab which is consider to be average, especially for his size), but his defence was mediocre at best and Riddick's prime lasted for a grant total of one fight... I think the early rounds will be give-and-take, but VK manages to avoid more and more shots while landing at a steady rate, to a late stoppage or a decision win.

    Then again, seeing the humongous amount of attrition punishment Bowe can take (Golota I & II), and given that Vitali is very heavy handed but not a big single punch hitter, i'm guessing this bout goes the distance. Which is a bad thing: the Golota II fight should've been stopped in the 5nd round and Vitali would probably wreck Bowe if again there is no corner/ref stoppage. Everyone who lost to Vitali Klitschko didn't just lose, but got beat up BAD.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    The more I think about it, this is the conclusion that I am starting to arrive at as well. In addition to styles, another key factor for me is that Bowe often relied on having a physical advantage over most of his opponents, and used it to bully them into submission. This is obviously not going to be an option against Vitali Klitschko...
     
  4. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Yes, that is why i think the Golota fight is somewhat indicative - even if Bowe was past his best there. He never fought a skilled big man before that.


    I may be selling Bowe a bit short though. His combination of size, offensive tools and durability give him a chance against anyone.


    p.s. what did you think of the Golota-Bowe fight during the 90's, Magoo? Chicago has a large Polish fanbase, right?
     
  5. teeto

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    I'm thinking this would be a great fight.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

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    Hardly a Prime Bowe, which I assume this fight is about, Vitali hasnt fought anyone nearly as good as a Prime Bowe, 37yo Lennox Lewis included
     
  7. PowerPuncher

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    How do you 'win the night' by having your neck snapped back time and again with power shots while holding on for dear life without being able to particularly bother your opponent with your own weaker shots? Nevermind the fact your face is ripped to shreds
     
  8. mr. magoo

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    Golata has actually lived and trained in Chicago at various points in the past. I had some friends in those days, who were of polish decent, and some of them were pulling for Golata to eventually emerge as the division's best ( :lol: ).

    Everyone I knew thought that both DQ's were fair though, and in fact it put a bad taste in most people's mouth towards Golata. At the same time however, it also diminished a lot of opinions regarding Riddick Bowe, and most people, including myself, felt that he was finished....
     
  9. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    To be fair, outside of the fouls, Golota showed tremendous skill combined with a big (super)heavyweight frame and workrate. If his head was screwed on right and with a better chin, he could've been the division's best for a at least a brief moment, or be in the top3 anyway.. from the devastating Lewis loss, it all went downhill. He was somewhat unlucky to run into perhaps the best version of Lennox ever.
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree,

    The low blows do not errase the fact that he was otherwise beating Bowe pillar to post, and for the most part, controlling the action with little more than a strait jab. Now granted, Bowe no longer had Eddie Futch in his corner, and his skills were beginning to diminish. I can't however believe that Bowe was SO MUCH better at age 25, than he was at 29, to the extent that he would have completely reversed the outcome of that match. Remember, he was arguably outboxed by an aging Tubbs, and lost the rematch to Holyfield, as soon as Evander elected to box and use straiter punches. Bowe was not very complete as a fighter. Sure, he had lots of physical tools and decent offense, but his short cummings might become rather apparent against either of the Klitschko Brothers...

    Some are using Vitali's losses to Chris Byrd and Lennox Lewis as a gauge for picking Bowe.. That's all well and good, but if you ask me, Klitschko has a lot more in common with the men who gave Bowe Problems than vice versa. I will also say that predictions need to be made on the basis of a certain amount of probability.... Which would you choose? The likelyhood that a fighter is going to struggle against a big puncher with a good strait jab, or the probability that he's going to tear a rotator cuff and quit for maybe the second time in many fights? For me, its a no brainer. Bowe having problems with physically strong men who could penetrate his defense with strait accurate shots is no secret. In fact, it was a career pattern for him.. Vitali was stopped once on cuts and quit once due to a torn rotator cuff. These things HARDLY establish any sort of a pattern..
     
  11. Fighting Weight

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    Yep, Bowe had the amateur pedigree too, his silver medal at the Olympics was a fine achievement considering his age at the time. VITLAY on the other hand has a massive black mark on his amateur career due to his steroid abuse - something that his fanboys conveniently forget when they're mocking the likes of Jones and Toney for allegedly doing the same :patsch
     
  12. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Neither. I don't think either has ever been good at keeping his hands up.
     
  13. Bummy Davis

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    Bowe was durable but he got hit often and like you said he enjoyed size over a lot of opponents and Bowe had good skills but durable or not I think he would have taken a beating from Vitali and Lewis but he gave up the crown not to fight Lennox...think he knew something
     
  14. PetethePrince

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    Ill go with Vitali, but with little certainty. I just think Bowe is too open. Bowe is superior in many ways but I think Vitali could make him pay. It's a closer fight than most make out...
     
  15. ThinBlack

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    Prime Bowe could edge this, but any other version suffers a decision loss.