Right handed southpaws

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  2. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't want to be a right handed southpaw.

    The jab is often cancled out when a southpaw fights an orthodox fighter, meaning that the straight lead punch becomes key. You'd prefer to have that as your stronger hand, rather than having your power hand neautralised and needing to rely heavier on your weaker one.
     
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    Juan Urango, Victoria, Chad Dawson, Pac, Michael Moorer, Antonio DeMarco, many of the Asian dudes.
     
  4. southpaw1974

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    Pacquiao is NOT right handed outside of boxing. He writes with his right hand, but that is only because he is from a poor country that forces many lefties when they are young to write with their right hand ala older generations did in the U.S. He throws a baseball, shoots a basketball, boxes and does many other things with his left hand. I am left handed and although I boxed, write, eat, bowl, shoot pool, throw a ball, etc with my left hand, I do other things with my right hand because I live in a right handed world and am basically forced to. In school they almost never had left handed scissors so I started using my right hand to cut things and I now use my right hand when I use scissors. I also use my right hand when operating a computer mouse because it was always placed on the right side of the keyboard. I don't know one southpaw who does EVERYTHING with their left hand.

    FYI- ambidextrous means "a person who is able to use both hands equally well". One would have to be able to write, eat, throw a ball, etc. equally well with both hands to be characterized as "ambidextrous". Very, very few people fall into that category. Lastly, whichever hand you throw a ball with is basically what your handedness is. I bat as a righty, but I throw as a lefty. Manny Pacquiao throws a baseball with his left hand. Go to the 2:12 mark.

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    I mostly agree, but I think it depends on the fighter. Someone like Hagler, who liked to smother and dig right hooks to the body, could benefit from having his strong hand be closer to his opponent.

    Dawson is a more questionable example. He has some natural power but, as a boxer who prefers space, has to be careful about winging a lot of hooks from the outside (he tried in Johnson I). He just doesn't land enough clean rights to put people out.

    On the other hand, it's difficult to argue against his success. Though he doesn't land as many head-snapping jabs, that punch is a critical defensive weapon for him because everyone must heed it. One big question against Ward is the extent to which his jab can keep Ward on the outside. I'm not sure it will work, and his left hand just doesn't pack much wallop.
     
  7. J.R.

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    I believe Devon Alexander is also right handed.
     
  8. Mind Reader

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    Was De La Hoya a southpaw fighting orthodox?
     
  9. raheen

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    Cotto is the opposite. Fight orthodox but is left-handed.
     
  10. evalistinho

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    Leon what would you say about about lefties who switch orthodox? Should lefties stay southpaw as well or do you think lefties switching have a better advantage than righties switching.
     
  11. Ripple633

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    Also Dawson's left hand isn't as effective as his right. We saw that in Hopkins II. Hopkins was walking towards Dawson's left hand the whole night, and Dawson rarely threw the left cross. I think Dawson was afraid that he might get off-balanced if he was constantly missing with the left-cross.
     
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  13. northpaw

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    Yeah with the exception of Winky Wright, his style perfectly favored
    his right hand lead. doubt he'd have been effective without that piston
    jab, he controlled fights and stunned people with the right. Then again
    it probably did limit his ko percentage, his left cross was fairly weak.
     
  14. Leon

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    I rather be a left handed person in the wrong stance than a right handed southpaw.

    The left handed orthy will be jabbing with his power hand. Since the majority of opponents are orthies the left handed orthy has opportunities to land his jab unlike the right handed southpaw. You know the old saying about how the jab is the most crucial punch in boxing.

    Plus a left handed orthy should have a very good hook, the deadliest punch in boxing.

    So the left handed orthy is at least a two punch beast wheres the right handed southpaw is typically limited to just a power right hook.

    Compare Cotto(e) and Oscar to Ortiz. The first two get constant accolades for having great hooks and jabs. Ortiz arsenal on the other hand consists of a strong right hook, his multiple knockdowns of Maidana were all caused by this shot, and the lil right uppercut he does at close range.

    I did some research a few months back and found that the left hand is the lethal hand in boxing. Orthies kill people with left hooks, and southpaws finish opponents with their left hands.

    The most crucial punch when fighting someone in the opposite stance is the str8. A right handed southpaw is forcing their weak hand to travel a far distance. What should be the deadliest punch is no longer as deadly since it has to cover a long distance AND is coming from the weak hand. Yes, their right hook may be crazy, but the hook is harder to land on an opponent in the opposite stance.

    I wouldn't recommend a right hander fight southpaw unless they're some sort of genius at creating the angles for the right hook, this punch is what made Edwin V such a dangerous knockout artist, and jab. Besides, most trainers are better at developing orthies, so access to good training will be easier to come across.

    Overall, I'm not a fan of converting. The awkwardness of being a southpaw outweigh the footwork issues and awesome one hand of a convert. Two pretty bitches are better than one fly *****.
     
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