Right Haye critics...a very simple two questions...

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  1. Strike

    Strike Boxing Addict banned

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    I am not saying Haye wont be KOd at some point at Heavy, in fact I think he will and I think Wlad would destroy him, so lets get that out of the way before everyone calls me a bias Brit.

    But what some of you don't seem to get is that before he fought Maccarinelli he said it would be his last fight at Cruiser and he would come back as a heavy to fight in the Autumn (Fall).

    He ALWAYS planned and laid out in interviews that he would take a considerable break to add on lean muscle weight for the transition to heavy, so quit whining about him getting in the ring before the time he always said he planned to.

    Now, the two questions...

    1. Name 6 fighters that would be acceptable as his opponent in November, given that he cannot and should not be given an immediate title shot.
    I keep hearing that Rahman would be a disgrace, Maskaev would be a disgrace etc etc.
    So if the division is not as **** as I think it is, outside of the champs, there should be 6 names (meaning if there were 4 belt holders, that 6 makes a top 10) who are more than satisfactory for his fight.

    2. Who are you top 10 and top 20? I keep reading that as soon as Haye fights a live body he gets starched. I keep hearing that he will no chance fight a top 10 Heavy and that any of the top 20 would KO him.

    So come on, who are the top 10? And who makes this top 20 who would all KO him?

    Maskaev fought Peter last and was a champion one fight ago, but he would be evidence of Haye being a coward and not fighting a top 10 fighter.:lol:

    So I assume we can discount Barrett, Rahman, Maskaev and we are not including the champs in who he can fight....

    Lets hear it and then when the fight is announced if it is indeed a nobody I will criticise him and if it is one of the guys you people say he will duck or get starched by and he wins, then some of you can shut the **** up.
     
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  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I'm not going to bother reading all of tyour post. He should've fought Cunningham in May or June instead of sitting around, getting fat, and coming up with fake injuries.
     
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  3. Suge Green

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    Got about that far...you really should go back and read those interviews because everything Haye said had October in it.

    He just recently started with the November thing.

    That's just part of the problem, he's letting us know that his mouth is more exciting than anything he's going to do in the ring.

    I'd like to see if beat WLAD if he could, but even talking about it is silly...when he's trying to navigate himself through the shallowest waters available in the HW division.
     
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  4. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cunnigham is a nobody on Haye's radar. He's moving to heavy for a reason.
     
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  5. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am waiting for Haye to fight anyone. All Haye has done is talk at Heavyweight.

    Haye is completely delusional (or in denial) about about his horrible chin. He claims he was only knocked down and hurt by cruiserweights that are fast, and that won't happen at Heavyweight because they are too slow. Thomspon was in his mid 40's!, Mock was pumped up Supermiddleweight, Mormeck is a bodybuilder with no stanima. Actually, none of them are fast, Haye you just have a bad chin.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    Right...



    Maskaev, Vitali, Peter and Valuev are busy. Chagaev would be interesting, but I don't see it happening.

    Let him fight Tony Thompson, Matt Skelton or, if he's feeling brave, Ibragimov first up. I think it is not unreasonable for a champion to step up and take on a bigger champ, but this is not the right road for Haye. One of these first, then a victorious Peter would be ideal.
     
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  7. PH|LLA

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    the guy talked so much smack it got pathetic.

    I'm still a big fan of Haye but not at all interested by his pointless cheap talk
     
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  8. Muchmoore

    Muchmoore Guest

    Oh man, an entire month!
     
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  9. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Almost every fighter at Heavyweight can punch. All fights will be dangerous if he gets clipped on his egg chin. Even James Toney, who is considered to have no power at Heavyweight can KO Haye.
     
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  10. Irländsk

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    A lot of the top guys are scheduled to fight around November so I understand why Haye is having difficulty finding a good opponent. Out of the few that are currently available I would like to see him fight one of the following,

    Sultan Ibragimov
    Alexander Dimitrenko
    Taras Bidenko
    Tony Thompson
    David Tua
    Friday Ahunanya

    Some of those names may not be available for long as I understand Tua is close to signing a fight with Arreola, and I realise Ahunanya is not near the top 10 but he always gives everything he has in the ring and it wouyld be nice to see him get a big payday while giving Haye a good test in the process.
     
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  11. Strike

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    He said "Autumn" which is fall for you guys. Last time I checked both October and November are in the autumn.

    Oh and seeing as reading more than 3 paragraphs is an issue for people, here are the questions again...

    1. Which 6 fighters are acceptable opponents outside of the champions?

    2. Who is the top 10 heavys and what are the top 20, given that everyone is saying he will get done by anyone in the top 20 and definitely KOd by anyone in the top 10?
     
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  12. Suge Green

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    saying...
    October top 10 opponent...

    when you are really thinking...
    November Hasim Rahman...

    ...is more than a little miss leading. Shame on David Haye.

    The timetable is just one aspect of Haye's attempted deception...
     
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  13. Galileo Galilei

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    Any of those guys you listed are acceptable.

    Makaev, Rahman, Toney, Barett, Golota, etc are all acceptable first hw opponents.

    Iff he were the world champ or such than those might not be acceptable but for now those are fine choices.

    I think the excessive mouth running while not yet doing a thing at hw is a bit annoying.

    But hey, its simply marketing on his part it comes with the game.

    I wouldn't expect him to face WK, The Giant, Peter or one of the top guys in his first fight.
     
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  14. Strike

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    So answer the question. Who classes as top 10 for you?

    Why was Rahman a fine opponent for Toney but not for Haye moving up?
     
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  15. Muchmoore

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    He's probably fightin Maskaev, not Rahman. The difference between October and November is nothing.
     
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