right who honestly picks cotto over pbf ?

this is better a good argument but i till disagree....

see even though at 147 and cotto has done a lot and more than floyd the fight is still determined by skill in that ring so still how is cotto on Floyd's level?

 

im not downing your opinion but what makes u say Mosley wins seeing as how a slower fighter in Cotto was able to tag him ALL NIGHT...floyd is the most accurate in the game right now.....primes i dont know but right now...i gotta go wit floyd. Mosley's D is vastly declined....he doesnt even move his head on the way in which is why Cotto's jab dominated him as he chased cotto the last roounds.

 

Because skill you can not put a number on, and there are many contributing factors to a skillset. This is where styles come into play, because if you list out any number of factors from jab to footwork to whatever else, you do not neccessarily have to have more in favour of Cotto to pick him to win

And there are quite a few things Cotto does better. Underrated jab, Floyd doesn't even use one much, and is prone to a very good jab. Work-rate. Power. There are many other intangibles, but these are just quick thoughts. Stylewise, he brings technical pressure, which I have a feeling Floyd is susceptible to.

 

This logic doesn't work. Ali had superior boxing skills to Frazier, but still lost to Frazier. Some would say Paul Williams has superior boxing skills to quintana, but he still lost. Just because you are more skilled doesn't always gaurantee a win, just ask the New England Patriots. What Cotto has that Floyd lacks is heart, grit, and determination. If Cotto beats floyd it will have more to do with these attributes and less to do with overall boxing skill. While cotto is a very skilled boxer and brawler it is very clear Floyd has superior hand speed, defense, and footwork. It is also very clear Floyd doesn't want to test his superior skills against Cottos superior heart and strength. Floyd isn't unbeatable. He is a MAN. Just like Cotto and Hoya and everyother boxer to lace em up.

 

no no...i wasnt using the logic to suggest a winner..merely a post against someone else who says Cotto is on Floyd's level based off of 147 i dont agree.

 

Most who know me know I give PBF the edge...but I am starting to lean towards Cotto....I will reserve complete judgement until the fight is signed, it will be quite an intriguing match up.

 

Because Floyd doesnt use the jab doesnt mean its not as good.

As far as the jab goes i think its not just the jab but the person throwing it.....i think long arms and people who are taller cause floyd problems with jabs....cotto has a 5in disadvantage...it may not be a lot but Floyd is a very good counter puncher so its actually a lot combined with floyds speed and reflexes ya know so i think neutralizing that jab will be fairly easy but who knows.

You say technical pressure but what is he going to throw other than that jab that body work wont work in the middle of the ring...cotto can not take his time comming in because his D is weak and Floyd will exploit it. this is just my vision....im not sayin cotto has no chance clearly i think floyd would win and im simply give my points like you are.

 

I voted for Floyd, but not without doubts. Comparing the current Cotto to the Hatton of the last few years is a stretch @ best. I'm just wondering how Cotto will handle Floyd's pre-fight antics.

 

When Cotto jabs his way in, he doesn't even need to be landing with it. He can use it purely as a rangefinder, and to back Mayweather up, as Mayweather's natural tendency at the higher weights is to backtrack. Cotto can use it simply to get in close, where he definitely holds an advantage with his body shots

Even Hatton, who is a poor welter had relative success early on, and he didn't even jab his way in or have any defence. In other words, it was not technical pressure - and the more I imagine Cotto in his place the more I see how he can win. He has to make a quick start to pick up early points and I believe he will, because as we know Mayweather is good down the stretch

I don't see Cotto beating him up or landing clean a lot. I see him outworking Floyd and picking up a lot of early rounds, before the pace slows and Mayweather's counterpunching really starts to come into play. It will be a very close decision, probably split

 

u make a very good point in cotto winning early rounds.....in fact i worried a little in the early hatton vs floyd fight because Floyd had to work hard with hatton early and even gettin caught with some good punches when backing up....only thing is hatton was very risky and lunged a awful lot and in the end it was his demise i dont see Cotto being to risky and definitely not lungin.

However i just think that slow closing pressure to me that cotto applies is just right for floyd to pot shot Cotto early and frustrate him....Cotto will have a extremely tough time jabbing his way in if he has no D for that straight right to the body and head....that jab can be good but Floyd is smart enough to nullify it.....then what?

 

I know mayweather is more skilled and has alot of advantages when you look at everything he has in his aresenal, but what i feel many people fail to do is look at who mayweather is now. He doesn't really throw combinations anymore, he doesn't have a great work rate, and he has had the tendancy to shy away from exchanges. Yea he may be a great counter puncher, but whoever thinks he's gonna put Cotto down with one punch like he did Hatton is smoking something. Floyd doesn't have power like Shane and Judah who couldn't do it. One counter punch here and there is what almost lost him a fight in which he should have clearly dominated against Hoya and made the first few rounds with hatton look competitive. It won't work against a good pressure fighter like Cotto, who only gets stronger as the rounds pass. Cotto is a skilled boxer and brawler with a good jab and is probably the stongest WW right now. If Floyd comes to fight and uses everything he has in his bag he probaby wins a UD, but its pretty unrealistic to assume he will do that, which is why I feel Cotto has a great chance of beating him.

 

I'm going with Cotto whenever this fight happens.. Each and every fight he's in before the Floyd fight, he improves and impresses us.. I've explained 5 million times how I think Cotto would win, so I'm just gonna' end this by saying Cotto UD..:smoke

 

PBF's defense and counter-punching will be the difference in this fight. PBF by UD:deal

 

well i think floyd fights like he does because its heavier weights so he has to fight different he no longer can stand in there to take punches with heavier fighters...its just smarter ya know.

secondly a one punch KO nah..but a late round TKO after he has accumulated so many accurate punches it starts to wear anyone down so a TKO is very possible.

Lastly...i think its Cotto who needs to bring his A game with little mistkaes if ANY.