Rigo vs Prime Chris John.

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  1. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just rewatched some old Chris John fights and forget how great he was.

    His resume is a little thin but when he step up, he proved himself. He has a clearer victory over JMM than PAC does.

    So for fun, Who would will a fight between these master boxers?

    If they were the same size, I might take Rigo. However if the fight is at 126, John is just too big.

    Who will this featherweight superfight?
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Not sure but fun to think about. Without thinking about it longer than 30 seconds, I would guess a fight that would be debatable and warrant a draw score...

    Glad to see not everyone sleeps on Chris John and that not everyone regurgitates the same nonsense that Marquez was "robbed" against John. I've watched it several times over the years as it's a hotly debated topic and I've only ever scored it to John, ranging from 1 point to 3 IIRC.
     
  3. Boxing Prospect

    Boxing Prospect Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    John's resume is a lot more interesting than many give it credit. Fighters like Sato, Gainer, Marquez, Enoki, Juarez, Yordan and Hosono are all fairly decent opponents and it's not Johns fault that guys in the division didn't have promoters believe in their guy enough to drag him out with a big purse bid...

    ...talking about dragging John out he defended his belt in more countries than some fighters ever fight in. Indonesian, Japan, USA, Singapore and Australia isn't a bad selection...

    ...and his fight with Enoki IN Japan was BRILLIANT!

    I suspect a prime John beats Rigo...though it's a 60-40 type of guess
     
  4. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never understood why John was sequestered in his home country for as long as he was, I think the only times he fought in the states is when he took on rocky Juarez twice.

    John might be a little too big for rigo at 126, but rigo would have an incredible advantage in handspeed and foot speed for this fight. I think rigo could outbox him to a UD. He'd have to be focused for the entire fight though.

    And I agree with those that said John beat JMM. Marquez is one of my favorite fighters, but John beat him clearly IMO. It's amazing what's happened to both of their careers since they faced each other.
     
  5. Boxing Prospect

    Boxing Prospect Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He WASN'T stuck in his home country! That myth needs exposing!
    3 bouts in Australia
    3 in Japan
    2 in Singapore
    2 in the US
     
  6. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I said he had 2 fights in the states against rocky Juarez.

    And no offense, but Japan, Singapore? Really? What world class fighters end up going there to build up their brands? After the Juarez fight, why didn't he continue fighting in the states? If you're going to enhance your resume, you need to fight full time in the states.

    I forgot how many times he fought in his career, but based on your stats, I imagine he had over 35 fights in his home country than. That's why he'll never be regarded as one of the great feather weights. Salvador Sanchez at 23 achieved more than Chris John did his entire career.
     
  7. Boxing Prospect

    Boxing Prospect Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You also said "sequestered in his home country for as long as he was".

    Japan has plenty of solid guys at 130 and below so it does make sense to build your name down there if you're at those weights. Singapore was offering big money for him to fight there with TV coverage in Australia and Indonesia, so why blame him for taking the big bucks and still defending against credible challengers

    Comparing Sanchez to John is, in fairness, a huge compliment to John. No one is suggesting John to be an ATG.

    The idea that he needed to travel is just infuriating. He traveled more than most fighters and yet is continually criticised for being a stay at home champion, yet when Americans fight in the US it's accepted as normal...

    Also from what I understand he took a SUBSTANTIAL pay cut to fight in the US on an undercard as opposed to fighting at home
     
  8. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    John was an excellent, underrated technician. Too bad his profile wasn't higher as he was terrific.
     
  9. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    John was a great champion, I hope he has a good retirement.
     
  10. takahiro-onaga

    takahiro-onaga Active Member Full Member

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    John very good. I think Hosono unlucky that headclash cost him chance to beat John. Win over Enoki was amazing fight.

    As for who go to Japan to help legacy, most good fighter in Asia. US fan not always care about lower weight fighter. Read a lot on here that don't watch below lightweight. In American John take paycut and get seen by maybe 1 million, in Indonesia he get seen by a lot of million and is national hero, in Japan he get seen by a lot of fan, in Australia he get seen by lot of fan, in Singapore he get seen by lot of fan and make place in history and make lot of money.
     
  11. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    my mate is apart of wild will tomlinsons team and they spoke with chris jons team ages ago and his team were telling him how when marquez came down for the fight they ****ed him around real hard

    they organised some ****box with no AC to pick him up an just drive him around aimlessly, **** with his hotel an **** to make him agitated and uncomfortable