Rigodeaux v.s Willie Pep

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Who wins??

  1. Pep

    62 vote(s)
    68.1%
  2. Rigodeaux

    29 vote(s)
    31.9%
  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    See this is where it get hypocritical.

    Rigo isn't expected to give us the best fight out there because he can get the same money fighting lesser opponents, yet the people seen as tier below him ranking wise are expected to sacrifice their big paydays to make sure he gets the fights he wants. If it weren't for the Loma situation, I think you'd have a much more solid point unless you want to concede that Rigo has been a bit of a hypocrite in regards to making that match up. Two wrongs don't make a right and all.

    Frampton and Quigg would not earn the same amount facing Rigo as they did each other. Frampton has then gone on to score lucrative paydays agains LSC. Would I have liked to see Frampton - Rigo. Def but I understand why it didn't happen.
     
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    Still a win, though. While a rematch would certainly have been warranted, ultimately Saddler found a way, fair or foul, to convince Pep to stay on his stool. Same with the fourth fight. Not necessarily convincing, but legitimate wins nonetheless.

    Well, he held his own with Saddler because he was likely the greatest featherweight of all time, and not that far removed from his absolute peak as was commonly indicated in various narratives.

    Maybe "having his number" might be too strong of a term, but Saddler had attributes and a style that were bound to give even a peak Pep a lot of problems.

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    Some quality fouling on the part of both fighters. Some quality work from both fighters in between all the fouling and wrestling, too. Two great boxers, each one effective in their own way.
     
  3. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't see on what basis you could take Rigodeaux to beat Willie Pep.
     
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    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wakbar Weasel doesn't know anything about Pep. He's just a Trollhadi using boxrec and trying his best to discredit a legendary boxer for his little agenda. Lol! But that's failing bad :D
     
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    What is the best fight for Rigs at 122? He is ducking no one. We already discussed the Lomachenko situation. It wasn't Rigondeaux being unreasonable, so that isn't even a point. LSC, Frampton, and Quigg ran from Rigs like cowards. When people start being apologetic for cowards ducking their beatings instead of fighting best, that's the type of **** that helps destroy the sport, because you have a hand in inabling the cowardly actions of some of these guys.
     
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    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Registering multiple accounts to argue with me doesn't make your weak arse troll argument anymore more valid.
     
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    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    My name is Daniel, I'm from Louisville, Kentucky. I only post under this profile. Who are you..where are you from?

    You made a stupid comment and got owned, have a nice day.
     
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    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Managing to dislocate a guy's shoulder in a clinch doesn't really prove he's the better fighter though, especially if he's getting pretty badly clowned and outclassed in this particular fight.


    I can agree with that.

    True, but the fouling is going to favor the younger, bigger, healthier man, and fouling is illegal and should have been kept controlled and not determine the outcome of the fight.
     
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    :clap::clap::clapclap::clapclap::clap::clapclap:
     
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    Well for starters we keep hearing how tiny he is at 122. That 122 is more or less his walk around weight. If that's the case then boil down a little further and take on the big names operating just below. There are some great fights to be made.

    "Rigo is a small 122-pounder who could make 118 without much trouble" - Gary Hyde

    Then there is the Loma fight which he didn't want at 126. If he did then it would have been made but he started making demands about catchweights, rehydration clauses and the purse. It was never going to happen because he never wanted it to happen.
     
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    Rigondeaux is 5'2 1/2 maybe 5'3 max. Agbeko looks like he had about three inches on him.
    Rigondeaux said he would move to 118 to fight Gonzalez. Tell dough boy to move up one more weight class.
    Stop spreading falsehoods about the Lomachenko fight. Rigondeaux said meet me at a catchweight. Lomachenko declined. He then said well don't rehydrate so you outweigh me by 12 pounds. Lomachenko declined. Then Rigs said fine, I'll fight you at featherweight. Just pay me what the fight is worth, and Bob Arum cried foul. It is what it is. Lomachenko could have made the fight if he had the balls. He didn't.
     
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    WAkbar is my ****...
     
  13. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    You are full of excuses and none of them stand up to much scrutiny so it's best we leave it here with you in Rigo-land and the rest of us in reality.

    You think an offer to fight at 126 is a 'falsehood', I don't. The vast majority of the boxing community agree with me but its hard for you as someone who has decided that they enjoy the 'Rigo is a hugely avoided superstar' narrative so much that anything that threatens that isn't true.

    And you talk like the Gonzalez fight is the only one dropping down for - something I'll see him do before I believe - as Inoue and Yamanaka being key examples.
     
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    Just one day in the future,

    100 years from now,

    they will be a new star boxer at 122, that learnt all his skills from the ATG in Rigo, and we will have Golden day warriors screaming ,

    "Rigo was the best, no one is better than him, not fighter X or B,".

    I smile inside, beacuse boxing is an art, and its only when your gone that your legend grows immensly, Willie pep when he was the best at his time probably got it too from people saying so so from the bar knuckle era was greater etc,et al......
     
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    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    And Rigo is known for his iron chin except he was floored 2 times by JABS. Delete your account you dumb ****.