Rigondeaux can't afford to move up in weight class

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by The General, Jan 1, 2015.


  1. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    There is talk of a Lomachenko/Rigo fight coming up, hope it happens............
     
  2. KillSomething

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    Rigo has ZERO business anywhere above 122. If he sticks around at 122 he can get in with Frampton, Quigg, and hopefully some fine day...Inoue and/or Gonzalez.

    I still want him to move up and see what he can do to Walters, Lomachenko, and Mares, though. Gradovich might give him a good fight...not much power, lots of workrate, good chin, great fighting spirit.

    And for now since everyone insists on ducking him i'm quite happy with him just cruising the Asian circuit and fighting hungry fighters who have the sack to bring the fight to him.
     
  3. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I don't know, he had an obvious size advantage against the guy he jumped up two divisions to brutalize. He's probably cutting weight and belongs at 122 or 126 naturally. If he can do that to guys his size or bigger I'd say that he warrants inclusion in the p4p lists.

    It's sort of like how Crawford's KO over Gamboa was nice, but not the stuff of legend. Gamboa was in over his head and belongs at featherweight. Crawford was weight cutting and belongs at welterweight. They meet at lightweight and Gamboa gets destroyed.

    What we learned is that talented big guys can dominate little guys. Pound for pound to me is when the little guy does the dominating of a bigger opponent.
     
  4. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what? the guys 5'4 he will more than likely never end up at 126:lol:

    Narvaez is unbeaten at that weight and has like 20 title defenses, a prime Donaire couldn't knock him out even by dragging him up a division and fighting a guy way bigger than him.

    Walters is an example of a fighter who is huge for the division and is cutting lots of weight. He has also never faced even a half decent real featherweight. He has fought two shot to **** flyweights and people are raving about him, his done nothing

    Gamboa-Crawfors is irrelevent , Gamboa had no business near that weight and has looked poor for years. Narvaez had been a world champion for 14 years and had only lost when he got dragged up in weight to fight a p4p fighter, nothing like gamboa
     
  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I don't think that 122 or 126 is out of the question for Inoue. So many champions at featherweight historically had the same type of measurements as Inoue.

    Naoya Inoue 5'4”, 67”

    Terry McGovern 5'3”, 65”
    Abe Atell 5'4”, 66”
    Johnny Kilbane 5'5”,68”
    Eugene Criqui 5'4”, 68”
    Johnny Dundee 5'4.5”, 63”
    Benny Bass 5'1.5”, 64”
    Tony Canzoneri 5'4”, 65”
    Henry Armstrong 5'5.5”, 67”
    Willie Pep 5'5”, 68”
    Vicente Saldivar 5'3”, 67”
    Eder Jofre 5'4”, 66”
    Bobby Chacon 5'5.5”
    Wilfredo Gomez 5'5”
    Naseem Hamed 5'4.5”, 64”
    Abner Mares 5'4.5”, 66”

    I'm not going to list the height and reach of every featherweight champ but that should give you the picture. Granted, most of those champs fought in a time when day of the fight weigh ins was the norm. Now, the division may be full of lightweights cutting down to featherweight like I suspect Walters is doing.
     
  6. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    all of them apart from the last 2 were during the days of weighing on the same day, that doesn't apply

    also Inoue hasnt got a thick build
     
  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    So you think that every fighter ought to cut two divisions worth of weight on fight night? If nobody fights at their actual weight and everyone cuts things will even out and be fair? That's sort of like saying if everyone takes steroids we will have a fair sport.
     
  8. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    nope i'm saying why should a guy like rigo who could actually make 118 without cutting at all be going up to fight a guy like Walters who has to cut a ton to make 126 when he can get better fights by going down and fighting gonzalez and inoue:good

    thats my point