Rigondeaux is Not Unbeatable, LSC, Carl, Walters, Jhonny, Loma Can Dethrone Him.

Cafe · Dec 31, 2014

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Y'all are such bandwagoners. Ye change your complete opinion on a boxer every single day. Goddam make up your mind!
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The forum isn't a hivemind, there are many people here with differing opinions, naturally after a fighter does something that goes with the opinion of somebody, they will raise their voices. Although there are some bandwagoners who seem to change their opinions as well.

The Akbar One · Dec 31, 2014

The same people said Rigs would be destroyed by Donaire, after the Marroquin fight. Rigs doesn't seem to bring the same focus into the ring when he fights these taller opponents in stay busy fights. Best believe he wipes his **** with Frampton, Quigg, or LSC.

The Akbar One · Dec 31, 2014

A fighter 5'2.5 to 5'3 can't get cowards at his own weight to fight him, so people suggest he fight featherweights who have even more of a size advantage over him. Rigs beats guys his own size very easily. Probably beats a few of the top featherweights as well. It gets to a point though where the size disparity could be a detriment, if the bigger man has enough skill, not necessarily better skills.

Capt · Dec 31, 2014

Rigo fought and virtually outclassed a fighter who was at least 7 inches taller than him, who probably outweighed by 25 pounds, and in his backyard. 7th round be dammed, he got caught just like he did against Donaire and did the same thing afterwords, which was out boxed his opponent until the guy quit. Rigo beats anyone in his division if they choose to fight him.

TheyDontBoxNoMore7 · Dec 11, 2017

CST80 said: ↑

Rigondeaux has become mythic in a little over a year on this site, now let me in laymen's terms be a mythbuster.
Is Rigo one of the most skilled talented boxers in the sport today YES, but that doesn't mean he is incapable of losing.

He beat Donaire which didn't shock me, in fact I knew it would happen, Donaire's decline didn't start with Rigo it started with Vazquez Jr and Mathebula, even though he won both fights he didn't look great in either of them. He was on a roll, and very left hook happy and when his opponent took his power well, he would have difficulty trying to adjust especially in the Mathebula fight. Rigondeaux is a superior boxer but skillwise Donaire is far from perfect, and his KO power is overrated 35 fights 21 KO's, isn't that amazing. Donaire wasn't mentally ready, he was distracted by events in his personal life and hadn't really put too much thought into what he was up against, he took him far too lightly. But still best win of Rigo's career.

Now what about the others, Joseph Agbeko not very impressive win especially due to the fact that he was coming into the match shellshocked, he was fighting the guy who just dethroned the king, wouldn't you be intimidated, the fight was lost before it began. He knew he didn't have the skills or the KO power, so what does that leave him with, he was collecting a paycheck. He was outboxed by Yonnhy Perez and Abner Mares twice. Mares hurt him bad in the first round of the first fight, so of course he will fear Rigo's power, and make him hesitant to engage.

Robert Marroquin he was 23 years old and decent but had fought nobodies so no big deal, he was unproven.
Rico Ramos seemed impressive at the time but since then he has been outboxed 3 times and been down countless times, maybe he wasn't very good to start with.

But here is the potential crack in his armor, Ricardo Cordoba who was KO'd and dropped 4 times by Bernard Dunne, so he doesn't have an iron chin but he made the fight very ugly and crowded Rigo and pressured him through much of the second half of the fight eventually losing in a SD, but managed to drop Rigo to a knee with a left hook, which affected him causing him to retreat for the rest of the round. Cordoba is also a southpaw which seemed to give him problems at times as well. He didn't win but he made Rigo look beatable.

Rigondeaux has KO power??? does he??? he hasn't KO'd 3 of his last 4 opponents, because he stepped up in competition and when you step up the chins get better. Showing maybe top tier guys have less to fear, Cordoba realized that and he didn't even have a great chin.

Frampton has 2 very impressive wins in his resume Kiko Martinez and Hugo Cazares. Neither man had ever been KO'd yet Carl stopped them both. He has a good chin, Kiko couldn't hurt him and he stopped Romero and Mathebula neither had been stopped before Donaire couldn't even stop Mathebula. Does Carl have the skills maybe not but may have the power, Donaire and Cordoba dropped Rigo, so he may not have the best chin. He can counter punch and stalk his opponent potential big threat to Rigo.

Santa Cruz could be a potential nightmare for Rigo, he has been walking through everyone he faces like a bulldozer stopping Morel for the first time something Mares couldn't do, his constant pressure and great Mexican chin would surely be a problem especially if Cordoba was, and Santa Cruz is far better a fighter than Ricardo. Granted Seda and Mijares were problems they were southpaws as is Rigo but he still beat them soundly, LSC is being written off far too easily based on workrate alone he may edge it, even if he can't stop Rigo.

Lomachenko is operating on the same level as Rigo, they are both natural counter punchers and southpaws which could be one of their undoing, someone will eventually have to press the fight and Vasyl's hand speed and combinations may prove hard for Rigo to deal with, as would his power if anyone can land on Rigo flush its Loma and if he can hurt a usually solid chinned welterweight version of Salido, he can definitely crack Rigo's questionable chin.

Is Rigo unbeatable I don't think so, people are buying into the hype a little too much, the first fighter who is unfazed by his counters and can get to him will pose a serious threat to everyone's new favorite flavor of the month.

Edit: Walters would poleax him as well, Jhonny Gonzalez would knock his head off.:deal
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Straight out of the horses mouth. BS exposed.

TheyDontBoxNoMore7 · Dec 11, 2017

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He's ugly as a hatful of assholes:yep
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A Rigo hater now propping him up for Loma agenda. Even the man’s looks

TheyDontBoxNoMore7 · Dec 11, 2017

Now Loma is becoming mythic and already has an L but that doesn’t matter right? Hypocrite. Don’t get on me for the same bs you pull. Obviously you can’t rate Loma’s victory too highly correct? Rigo is essentially a hypejob according to you.

CST80 · Dec 11, 2017

TheyDontBoxNoMore7 said: ↑

Straight out of the horses mouth. BS exposed.
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That was brilliant work on my part. I was a Heavyweight Champion Troll when I first joined the site back in 2014. World class wasn't I?lol: There's even a few vicious anti-GGG threads I did too.

I made a face turn around 2015.... although I still like to slide over to heel once in a while.

Now, go back and bump all your Rigo dickriding posts and prove what a hypocrite you are, because unlike you, I don't want to waste my time creepily going through your post history.

Mother****er, you take me WAAAAY too seriously.

Grinder · Dec 11, 2017

CST80 said: ↑

Rigondeaux has become mythic in a little over a year on this site, now let me in laymen's terms be a mythbuster.
Is Rigo one of the most skilled talented boxers in the sport today YES, but that doesn't mean he is incapable of losing.

He beat Donaire which didn't shock me, in fact I knew it would happen, Donaire's decline didn't start with Rigo it started with Vazquez Jr and Mathebula, even though he won both fights he didn't look great in either of them. He was on a roll, and very left hook happy and when his opponent took his power well, he would have difficulty trying to adjust especially in the Mathebula fight. Rigondeaux is a superior boxer but skillwise Donaire is far from perfect, and his KO power is overrated 35 fights 21 KO's, isn't that amazing. Donaire wasn't mentally ready, he was distracted by events in his personal life and hadn't really put too much thought into what he was up against, he took him far too lightly. But still best win of Rigo's career.

Now what about the others, Joseph Agbeko not very impressive win especially due to the fact that he was coming into the match shellshocked, he was fighting the guy who just dethroned the king, wouldn't you be intimidated, the fight was lost before it began. He knew he didn't have the skills or the KO power, so what does that leave him with, he was collecting a paycheck. He was outboxed by Yonnhy Perez and Abner Mares twice. Mares hurt him bad in the first round of the first fight, so of course he will fear Rigo's power, and make him hesitant to engage.

Robert Marroquin he was 23 years old and decent but had fought nobodies so no big deal, he was unproven.
Rico Ramos seemed impressive at the time but since then he has been outboxed 3 times and been down countless times, maybe he wasn't very good to start with.

But here is the potential crack in his armor, Ricardo Cordoba who was KO'd and dropped 4 times by Bernard Dunne, so he doesn't have an iron chin but he made the fight very ugly and crowded Rigo and pressured him through much of the second half of the fight eventually losing in a SD, but managed to drop Rigo to a knee with a left hook, which affected him causing him to retreat for the rest of the round. Cordoba is also a southpaw which seemed to give him problems at times as well. He didn't win but he made Rigo look beatable.

Rigondeaux has KO power??? does he??? he hasn't KO'd 3 of his last 4 opponents, because he stepped up in competition and when you step up the chins get better. Showing maybe top tier guys have less to fear, Cordoba realized that and he didn't even have a great chin.

Frampton has 2 very impressive wins in his resume Kiko Martinez and Hugo Cazares. Neither man had ever been KO'd yet Carl stopped them both. He has a good chin, Kiko couldn't hurt him and he stopped Romero and Mathebula neither had been stopped before Donaire couldn't even stop Mathebula. Does Carl have the skills maybe not but may have the power, Donaire and Cordoba dropped Rigo, so he may not have the best chin. He can counter punch and stalk his opponent potential big threat to Rigo.

Santa Cruz could be a potential nightmare for Rigo, he has been walking through everyone he faces like a bulldozer stopping Morel for the first time something Mares couldn't do, his constant pressure and great Mexican chin would surely be a problem especially if Cordoba was, and Santa Cruz is far better a fighter than Ricardo. Granted Seda and Mijares were problems they were southpaws as is Rigo but he still beat them soundly, LSC is being written off far too easily based on workrate alone he may edge it, even if he can't stop Rigo.

Lomachenko is operating on the same level as Rigo, they are both natural counter punchers and southpaws which could be one of their undoing, someone will eventually have to press the fight and Vasyl's hand speed and combinations may prove hard for Rigo to deal with, as would his power if anyone can land on Rigo flush its Loma and if he can hurt a usually solid chinned welterweight version of Salido, he can definitely crack Rigo's questionable chin.

Is Rigo unbeatable I don't think so, people are buying into the hype a little too much, the first fighter who is unfazed by his counters and can get to him will pose a serious threat to everyone's new favorite flavor of the month.

Edit: Walters would poleax him as well, Jhonny Gonzalez would knock his head off.:deal
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I hope some of the ducking crew at 126 find the balls to fight Rigoblin now. He will definitely beat them all, once his hand gets better......

CST80 · Dec 11, 2017

Grinder said: ↑

I hope some of the ducking crew at 126 find the balls to fight Rigoblin now. He will definitely beat them all, once his hand gets better......
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Probably.... let's hope anyway, it'll only serve to elevate Loma's reputation even more.

Farmboxer · Dec 12, 2017

Lomachenko won two gold medals for a reason................he will become a superstar soon................I anyone who claims Lomachenko can't fight does not know boxing..............Lomachenko came up from 126 to 130, he will beat the other champions in that division first, then perhaps go up. The haters want Lomachenko to fight Joshua right now!

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