Rigondeaux Update

Tricky ******* ...

 

For the record-
I have no connection with Gary Hyde. I never met him and don't know anyone who does know the guy to be honest. But I do know that Ireland is a very small country and people talk here. If Hyde was doing this and got exposed by the media here for doing what one or 2 posters here are suggesting he would be labelled a scumbag belive me.

I don't like it when people mention rhumors or pre judge people based on internet hype.
If someone can prove to me that Hyde did indeed sign Rigondeaux for $500 and no other payments or cut of the fights then I would be disgusted. But to be honst I think that is complete B.S. Sometimes as a fan of a sport star (which Rigo is) you can be blinded by the high regard for them so much so that anything which causes them not to perform can lead to accusations etc being thrown from every direction.

I prefer to go by facts. I am not a legal person - but I have recieved leal training in a prvious job I once had. A contract is a contact but if it infringes on local law, or there is a conflict of interest, then sometimes a court will find ways to interfere. The FACT is that this did not happen. Also - If Rigondeaux was as poorly treated as some suggest here, then he wouldn't be boxing period.

I think, and I am happy to be proved wrong, that Rigo simply took another contract out without honoring the one he already had. This led to these complications. He probably was ill advised.

Do I think Gary Hyde has Rigondeaux's absolute best interests at heart - No.
Do I think that Gay Hyde is a scumbag and doesn't care about Rigondeaux cause he is a bad guy - no.

I think it's a situation where a mutually beneficial agreement was reached. As someone else said its very unlikely that Rigondeaux was so naive that he accepted a contract which only offered him support for a month - or $500 Dollars when the whole pro v amateur code was well known.

If Hyde was as bad as one poster here is suggesting, then trust me the boxing community in Ireland would know about it. It's too small a community for it not to be known.

What I am trying to do here is counter balance the posters who judge without facts but judge on "Rhumor" and form an opinion of an outcome with out knowing the root cause of the situation. I think its fair. If you have facts argue them. If you have "Rhumors" try to egde on the side of caution. Often people make very selevtive pieces of information in a debate on a public forum without having the true facts it can distort things.

E.g. Lance Armstrong!!!

Now if people can educate me with more facts that are missing here and can prove them or show more links then I will gladly change my opinion.

 

Still, there shouldn't be an injunction. In this country you have the right to break a contract. You just have to be prepared to pay damages. Preventing the fight is excessive and hurts everyone.

 

Thats an awesome vid.

 

Hi all, just my two cents worth, first of all i tip my hat to Paddymickey for speaking up for Gary Hyde, A person he has never met and dont know him personally. Kudos to you Paddymickey, i take it from his post he is also from Ireland, I would just like to say I am a personal friend of Gary for over thirty years, both as young boxers in the amateur game in the late 70's through the 80's and friends outside the sport of boxing. i am not aware of the details of any of Garys contracts with his boxers, they dont concern me and neither should they concern anyone else. Over the years i have seen Gary make many sacrifices for the benefit of others for no reward other than the self gratification of " i was able to help " . Gary is a great supporter of amateur boxing in the local community. All in all Gary is an upstanding guy who would not see anyone done by, let alone one of his boxers, Of course Rigondeaux's career interests are high priority to his manager, the more successful a boxers career better for all concerned, and Gary wont let Rigo undersell himself to anyone.... So to " stevenson#1 " lets cut out those loose slanderous names such as "leech" and "*******" regarding a friend of mine and a person you dont even know... in fact contact me here on pm and i will give you his or my phone number and you can relay the same verbally over the phone, in fact i think an apology here on this Forum in in order..... RIGONDEAUX VS DONAIRE lets get it on!

 

Shots fired! :ko:boxxgun

But seriously, thanks for the clarity Paddy and corkcitycat.

 

They should clearly concern boxing fans since one of those contracts appears to be keeping a fight from happening.

Hyde's actions have moved that potential fight from unlikely to extremely unlikely since this is probably the end of Rigondeaux's association with Top Rank, or at least any kind of long-term planning for him.

 

Bob Arum has recently been quoted as saying Rigo is chinny.... Hes putting him in one of his best prospects at 122 that can bang

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/8232210/guillermo-rigondeaux-robert-marroquin-bout-set-sept-15....

there is hyping a fight but to me that reads as a bit of an insult what promoter in their right mind calls their fighter chinny?



The deal is a 1 fight only deal for much less money than Goldenboy were offering....

A few Cuban posters have noted that members of rigos team were fearful that he was gonna get robbed if he didnt stop kennedy in June (maybe some of the guys from the cuban thread will remember this)

and why would you consider hyde a leach for trying to get rigo the best deal possible....

thats just called doing your job it would be negligent if he didnt.

Top Rank tried to cut hyde out of the deal from what ive been reading why would you want to cut a boxers manager out of a deal.... hmmmmmm could it possibly be the same reason that a promoter cannot also manager a fighter he promotes???

From what I've ready the fight on the 15th can still go ahead all they need to do is work out details with Hyde.... (it was in an article on the ring website last night)

 

Was never going to happen. Just like he wouldn't put the popular Juanma in with the relatively unknown Gamboa. Both Cubans are better and a win for them would mean less money for Arum.

 

Still have hope that his fight with Marroquin will happen.

 

Take no notice of him. He's one of many moronic Cubans on here who seem to think no Cuban can do any wrong and will never lose a fight. Most Cubans on here are overly patriotic idiots.

 

You don't have to convince me at all that Top Rank does not care about Rigondeaux. I'm just somewhat dubious that Hyde necessarily has his best interests at heart either, and I found his friend signing off his post with hopes for a Donaire fight hilarious since these actions will make Top Rank even less inclined than they were already to do anything with Riongdeaux.

 

Very true.

 

but his actions have moved Mares/Moreno winner vs rigo from never going to happen to probably will happen if he signs with goldenboy :deal

 

I suppose that's ok. But Rigo vs. Donaire was better. Despite what most think, I actually believe(d) those two were on course to fight each other.