Rigondeaux's hand not broken.

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  1. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Look at this catty, washer woman getting all emo and mad over Loma. LOL Walters even said with his own words that would have gotten stopped if he continued. You are an insufferable bore with your hatchet jobs and petty micro management of fighters like Lomachenko.

    How did that "pumpkin face" prediction work out for ya?
     
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  2. 3rdegree

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    I lost m
     
  3. dealt_with

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    Lomachenko was starting to land hard punches and was turning up the pressure. Rigo had already put his mind on stinking out the joint and surviving from the second round. It was getting progressively worse for him, it would be strange to think that Loma wouldn’t have walked him down and knocked him out at some point in the next six rounds.
     
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  4. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Rigo was staggered twice in the fight. In the final minute of the sixth round he was getting hurt by punches, knee dipped and body shot froze him. It’s hard to show power against World level opponents who quit.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Okay so then, again why couldn't Nonito do the same versus El Huracán?

    ...and yes, I realize the Flash was never as talented or skilled as Lomachenko, but he was no slouch. He was a top p4p fighter, and could not walk down and KO the much smaller/older champ moving up to challenge him despite being very annoyed by his negativity and very determined to punish him for it. You won't find a bigger Narváez fan than me, but I'm not going to pretend his movement and defensive skills are on some untouchable stratosphere where a puny mortal like Rigondeaux could never dream to walk. If the Argie could run & hold to a safe UD loss against Donaire, explain to me why Rigondeaux (significantly better at pretty much every facet of the game than Narváez, and I say that as someone that likes Narváez a million times more than I've ever cared for Rigo) couldn't do the same against the much lighter-hitting (if all-around better) Lomachenko?

    If a world class spoiler decides he isn't getting knocked out, and we are six rounds deep already, with no major dramatic moments or knockdowns, and the pursuer isn't really known to be a one shot KO puncher - why on earth are we assuming the world class spoiler is going to get kayoed if he doesn't quit?

    Rigo had the option to pull a Narváez and neg his way to a UD loss, is all I'm saying.
     
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  6. JohnnyDrama99

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    A bruised hand hurts real bad
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    So don't throw your left. :nusenuse:

    Guys have fought with cracked sternums, massive hematomas and the like...

    Sure he probably didn't have a path to victory anymore by the point he quit, his zero was toast and the fact of taking an L to Lomachenko was academic, but when faced down three forks in the road consisting of a) quit, b) get kayoed or c) lose a decision, surely, surely those have to be in reverse order of desirability?
     
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  8. JohnnyDrama99

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    Lol. I was just kidding. Rig quit. I don't even believe his hand was bruised outside of the normal bruises that comes with training.
     
  9. The Akbar One

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    Options were quit, or lose a decision. No KO was gonna happen. Was Lomachenko going to turn into a power puncher in the second half of the fight? He was still having trouble connecting enough flush shots do even hurt him.
     
  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah, because Loma hasn't stopped8 of his 11 opponents.... oh wait.
     
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  11. JohnnyDrama99

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    Unfortunately we don't know what would have happened in the 2nd half of the fight. Rig doesn't have a tremendous beard and Loma isn't a one punch knockout artist but he is capable of hurting his opponents especially if he decides to sit down on his shots more. I think if Rig continued the chances of a DQ was highly likely. I don't think Rig would go out on his shield vs finding a way out on his feet if he knew he wasn't going to win. Loma's connect percentage was lower against Rig than in all of his other fights but that's because the Cuban is very good defensively. With that said, Rig was also hit more than he's ever been hit in any of this pasts fights.
     
  12. RingKing75

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    Lol! I havent gone to the official site in over a year and CW is still trolling? Is he still talking about Manny? That guy is the biggest troll i think ive ever come across.
     
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  13. Kevin Willis

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    You did not address anything he said, simply went off on some bizarre, verbose tangent.

    Your posts read like a copy of the Dead Sea Scrolls in Outer Mongolia.
     
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  14. DanielDimov

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    Man he gave 0 credit for Lomachenko, saying that if it wasnt Rigos broken hand , he was done...
     
  15. navigator

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    I'll accept this challenge.

    Because Donaire always tended to look less wonderful when opponents didn't bring the fight to him and open themselves up.

    Think of prime Donaire's finishes in his meaningful fights. The victims -- Darchinyan I and II, Maldonado, Mthalane, Martinez, Marquez, Sydorenko, Montiel, Nishioka, Arce -- were all moving into his power (not all night in a few cases, but certainly at the point of being hurt).

    When you think of the guys who've gone 12 with Donaire, they tended to be less willing to open up than those who fell victim to his power, namely Vazquez Jr., Mathebula, Magdaleno. And your guy, of course, who was an uncanny defender and 'fought' Donaire with incredible negativity even when on the front foot.

    Granted, Cesar Juarez went at him all night and heard the final bell, but what a chin that guy showed. Juarez aside, Rafa Concepcion is the only Donaire opponent I can think of who went forward, showed significant offensive initiative and didn't get stopped, and that's a testament to Concepcion being cute enough on offense on the night to avoid being fatally clipped by one of those big counters Donaire dined out on.

    This flaw in Donaire, his lack of offensive initiative and creativity, is why he should never have been favorite to beat Rigo. He was always going to be in the position of having to press the action in that one, a position that was never his forte, while the other sharpshooter had the luxury of sitting back and doing what he does best.

    Loma, on the other hand, is a much more industrious, creative and eager initiator than Donaire ever was. Rigo was looking uncomfortable with the situation by the 6th, was mounting next to no offense, could probably feel his old gas tank emptying and was being penalized for the one thing he could do to stem the tide. He would've fought 7-12 against a guy who had much more energy, much more offense and a bunch more size to bear down on him.

    Rigo likely saw himself getting stopped, and I imagine that would be why he subjected himself to what he perceived as the lesser indignity (some of us might disagree with him on that).
     
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