Ring article: Guys who’d kick Floyd’s butt

There's nothing worse than gross exaggeration to get your point across.

They may have beaten him, but nobody dances round Floyd like he's a sparring partner.

He's in the top 5 defensive fighters/ ring generals of all time imo.

 

imagine what he would do too manny:hi:

 

To be fair, that's a really formidable list of fighters are there would be no shame in losing to any of them.

I'd actually favour Floyd to beat Arguello, who could be troubled by quick feet and good movement. I think there's a good chance he could beat Oscar and maybe Saddler too. Those would be very close fights imo.

I'd struggle to pick him against any of the other guys.

 

A past prime version he fought at 154, a weight PBF sure as **** wasn't comfortable with at the time. At 135 floyd was a far better fighter than the light middle version that fought oscar. I don't think there fight at 154 gives much relevance to a discussion of them fighting each other at lightweight.

For the record prime oscar definetly takes mayweather at light middle and i think he probably does at welter as well, but i wouldn't favour him down at lightweight

 

Wow, I´m a bit surprised. Personally I don´t see it at all. How?

:deal

Do you really think I fall for your trolling? Sorry, little one, won´t work.

Armstrong went 59 (51) - 1 - 1 during his prime from ´37 to ´40. During this time he won championships, not belts but championships, in three weightclasses and held them at the same time. He set a record of 18 defences of the welterweight title. A record that still stands today. That´s better than Mayweather´s whole career. Sorry but Mayweather isn´t anywhere near Armstrong. Not legacy-wise and not h2h-wise.

Duran didn´t outbox Leonard. That´s true. But Leonard didn´t fight Duran´s fight. Leonard fought exactly like he wanted to. Look at the interviews of Leonard and Dundee before the fight. Leonard did what he always did. Duran was just better at it.

 

Kicked his butt? None of them.
However Ray Robinson (WW), Ray Leonard (WW), Tommy Hearns (WW) and Pernell Whitaker (LW) would have most likely won if they meet. I think there is a difference between winning and butt kicking. I think that Oscar de la Hoya (LW) & Alexis Arguello (SFW) have outside shots to beat him.

 

He won a close fight against a past prime DLH, what do u think would had happened if he was in his prime?

 

But this time both would be at the same weight, fighting with smaller gloves...:think

I don't know that any of them would be a lock to beat Floyd. Favored, yes. A lock, not hardly.

 

I think there is certainly something you can take from it. Mayweather hasnt looked the same kind of excellent above 140 but was certainly a lot closer to his prime days than Oscar was. The way Oscar's jab and combos troubled Floyd before he gassed, wouldnt be to much different at 135...I cant see how it would, if anything Oscar was a quicker and much bigger puncher at 135...plus Oscar's stamina was less questionable at the lower weights IMO. He had some big finishes against Molina and Gonzalez.

Floyd's run at lightweight was short..He arguably lost a fight to the best fighter he faced there..A fighter most would agree is inferior to a prime Hoya.

I think Floyd could beat Oscar...I think it far from a given he does and I would pick ODH. If the money was at 140 at the time and Oscar had forged more of a career there, I reckon he would have been up there with the better H2H fighters to lace them up at the weight.

 

Jose Napoles @ 147 schools him

 

I think Dulio Loi could have done the same at 140lbs. Kid Chocolate at 130lbs, too, when he was at his best.

 

Where's Pac on the list again?? Floyd ducked again?

 

Hard to disagree with this.

 

For what it's worth I think he has a chance against Arguello, Pryor, and Saddler.

The rest I think beat him quite convincingly. I'd love to see what a pressure fighter on Armstrong's level would do to him.

 

Oscar was very much a kid when he fought at lightweight though, i think he'd had less than 20 fights and not been pushed once down there. I'm not sure he had the experience to deal with mayweather at the weight who was much more battle hardened and experienced, especially after the castillo experience.

And i agree oscar would cause him problems with his jab and combinations but floyd himself would be far more active in throwing back and also his lateral movement at 135 was on a different level to that which he had at 154. Oscar would find it much more difficult to corner him i believe than he did at 154.

Also i'm not as convinced that oscar gassed as much as people claim in his fight with floyd. I think as much as anything he had a mental issue which he could have from time to time in the biggest fights. Mayweather was beginning to counter the jab and as much as anything i think he stopped using it because of the fear of being countered than him running out of steam. Which was a foolish mistake as it was working well for him.

For me as much as any other fantasy fight the weight really is important in who to pick to win between oscar and floyd. 130 i'm definitely with mayweather ditto 154 for oscar. 135 i'd pick mayweather tight ditto 147 for oscar and have a fight at 140 pretty much a pick em bout