Ring (fall 2008) on Wladimir Klitschko

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    "He has the physical tools to be a force, inlcuding height, power and athletic ability, but he also suffers from an over-cautious nature. His timid lapses are understandable, since he has suffered a pair of violent knockout losses and a terrible headbutt cut. There worries about chin, stamina and skin have turned him into a less than aggressive fighter. Still, when feeling dominant, he can be amazing to watch. His left jab is a perfect blinder that sets up a fast right hand, and his left hook nearly decapitated Sam Peter. He has a solid understanding of the basics of boxing, is light on his feet, and has grown more efficient under Emanuel Steward's watch. Not many fighters can stand up to Klitschko when he decided to end a fight."


    I've posted this because I think it is spot on, espcially the corolation between Wlad's weaknesses and his style. He might be the first really successful Heavy defined primarily by his weaknesses as opposed to his strengths. In terms of his style, that is.

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. FourtyOunce

    FourtyOunce Stick Ninja Full Member

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    That left still could not put Peter down:good
     
  3. rluevano

    rluevano El Gato De Culiacan Full Member

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    I feel that Lennox Lewis was a similar case under the tutelage of Manny Steward. Manny would have LL clinch and tire out his opponents by pressing his weight on them. Although he didn't seem to have the stamina problem and he actually threw caution to the wind when fighting big heavys.
     
  4. drvooh

    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did stagger him, though, and the lack of killer nstinct may very well have prevented him from finishing Peter off
     
  5. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    :lol: sounds like u wrote that.

    seriously though, that is a pretty fair assessment. he is very much a methodical and calculating fighter so much so he can be too passive at times. He understands his limitations and fights accordingly. Sometimes, this caution prevents Wlad from getting comfortable offensively and into a rhythm. He becomes comfortable when he begins to establish the jab and work behind it. IMO, he needs to get in-sync a little earlier in fights. But I agree with the assessment, when in a rhythm, Wlad is amazing to watch on offense.

    However, I believe people are being way too hard on him regarding his last 2 fights. Both were defensive southpaws possessing good chins and less aggressive styles. Hard to look good against that unless u go balls to the walls from the outset but risk gassing or getting caught. Just get the wins and move on.

    Remind me again, how many top ranked southpaws did Lennox, Tyson or Holyfield fight and look good against in their reigns? I'm sure not many. I think much of the criticism is being fueled by Haye and his lunatic fanbase which has caught on like a wildfire :-(

    Hopefully, the Povetkin fight gets made so we can see a good style clash promoting more action. If Wlad looks lethargic or struggles here, i will have to reaccess him in some respects.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think that Povetkin is made for him in this regard but I said something similair about Thompson...
     
  7. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When did this happen?
     
  8. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    either the sanders or williamson fight :think

    i just noticed sanders head-butted him during the first kd....and no wald haters it's not an excuse and i freely admit he got railroaded but it was still pretty nasty

    the williamson cut was very nasty. i think that fight was probably the low point of his career. pretty much everyone had written him off as a flop
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Williamson.
     
  10. THE BLADE

    THE BLADE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He probably is the best heavy in the world today but he is also fk boring and frustratingly inactive. Yes, Steward did change his style, he now fights very cautoious and holds a lot. He was much more exciting while being trained by Sdunek. He fights like Lewis now but at least Lewis put on some exciting fights.
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    He is by far the best heavy in the world currently. He is boring under Steward but seems unbreakable. Totally different to Lennox - who was cautious, rather than boring. Lewis wasn't afraid to use his repertoir - when did Wlad last throw a good uppercut?
     
  12. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "Frustratingly inactive"? :huh

    He fights 3 times a year. With all the boxing politics...that good
     
  13. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    He is I think a sort of "thinking mans" fighter. Watching his fights I always wonder why he doesnt just destroy the guy, he certainly has the physical capability for it, but then he still boxes very smart, if not entertaining. I feel watching him as though he simply decides at some point during the fight "Im going to unload on him now I think". I remember the Calvin Brock fight when for the first four rounds he was letting Brock outhustle him, and then Steward told him he needed to be more agressive, and then he just ran over Brock in the 5th and staggered him in the 6th and got that great KO in the 7th. And at the end I was wondering, he made it look so easy, why didnt he just do that in round 1.
     
  14. swedeone

    swedeone Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is he the best HW today?... Yep

    Does he have very good skills?... Yep

    Is he boring as hell to watch?... Yep

    Is his chin still very shaky?... Yep

    Is there anyone out there that can beat him?... Yep

    Will it happen in 2009?... To be determined.


    That's the facts folks.
     
  15. Loufatski

    Loufatski Boxing Junkie banned

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    That's funny, perhaps even true.