Ring has really put the boot into Hatton this month

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Jul 12, 2009.


  1. He was a 4 time world champ. would be 5 times if the IBF didn't strip paulie

    He fought 4 top 10 P4P HoF/ATG fighters Tyszu, JLC, PBF, Manny

    Fought World Champs Collazo, Urango, Paulie, Maussa

    decent guys Lazcano, Tackie, Phillips

    By the HOF standards, Hatton should be a shoe in
     
  2. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lazcano , Tackie , Phillips were all past it.

    Collazo was beaten more conclusively after Hatton. He also nearly stopped Hatton in the last. Urango was only a champ because Hatton vacated. Maussa please, he won a title, but could barely put one foot in front of the other. Malignaggi was a former champ and a top 10 p4p lightest puncher ever.

    Tsxyu was a good victory , but was on the slide and inactive. JLC was not a light welter and had been shaky in his previous fights and done nothing since. PBF was easy. Pacman was a massacre.

    I agree entirely with the Rings review. Thats not an insult, just an opinion.
     

  3. Straight out of the Hatton hater Handbook :tired

    We have heard it all before mate
     
  4. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i look at the resume and the era....and to me hatton is a lock...

    -lineal 140 champ for 4 years
    -victory over tszyu ranked number 3 p4p( who was only called "shot" after hatton beat him, and was coming off a sensational KO of Mitchell)
    -victory over urango( now a 2X IBF champ)
    -victory over castillo(was only called shot after the hatton fight, was ranked number 1 contender at 140 and top 10 p4p at the time)
    -victory over malginaggi(former IBF champ and was ranked number 1 contender at 140 at the time of the hatton fight)
    -victory over maussa (for the WBA 140 title)
    -victory over collazo (for the WBA 147 title)
    and handle full of victories over respectable fighters....lazcano, tackie, pendelton, olivera, phillips
    -Only 2 loses to floyd maywether, jr at 147, and manny pacquiao(only defeat at the natural weight at 140) both ranked number 1 p4p fighters in the world at teh time of the fights....

    -Record in world title fights :7-2
    -Record against Top 10 p4p fighters: 2-2

    I think his resume is very good for this faded era...not great but very good.....and his longevity as the lineal champ at 140 will get him in....I think hes a lock, once you break it down....
     
  5. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    true

    Tyszu’s decision not to fight after that means it’s hard to assess whether he was shot or not. The referee during the fight basically let him get away with anything he wanted as well. Either way, it was a great victory.

    Urango is iffy as can be – just took a sound thrashing from chinny Berto and who else had he beaten for that belt?

    Castillo had looked awful in the fight preceding Hatton – absolutely awful. His performance then, in the Hatton fight and since shows that he was clearly faded.

    Malignaggi hadn’t looked good since losing to Cotto and, really, had looked ragged in his last two before Hatton. The man’s high ranking merely underlines how poor LWW is as a division – we won’t see Ricky taking on Campbell, Bradley or Witter.

    Meh – iffy fighter but a good win.

    Very contentious victory and Ricky looked awful. Although, that said, it was a good fight considering Collazo was competitive with both Mosley and Berto following that.

    Lazcano? God almighty – he’d been inactive for two years and still nearly had Ricky on his arse.

    He was comprehensively battered by them – not even competitive. That speaks poorly for him as a fellow P4P fighter.

    I think he deserves induction for his following, for his efforts and for the fight against Tyszu – but really, he’s not that special in real terms and his two defeats really wipe the shine off his career. He faced a lot of guys at the right time but he briefly made boxing relevant in the UK again – if only he’d been on terrestrial TV he might have helped rebuild the sport.
     
  6. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    I've read the article and it's too general to say "The Ring" has put the boot into Hatton. That particular contributor has put the boot in with some justification.
     
  7. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    also too let me add hatton was on the p4p top ten for nearly 2 years....and was ring magazine's 2005 fighter of the year....name one guy in history that has those accomplishments and didnt get in?

    plus i believe he is the only british fighter to be fighter of the year?
     
  8. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    I agree entirely. Unfortunately, it's not cost-effective.
     
  9. It makes me laugh how some of the Hatton haters say ..... he'd should have fought Bradley instead of Paulie ..... who the hell was Bradley at the time ??
     
  10. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    You know the deal, he's have been shamelessly ducking the "monster" Urango too if he hadn't have fought him whereupon Urango becomes "crude and one dimensional"...;)
     
  11. threethirteen

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    Bradley had just beaten Witter for the WBC title, rather than struggling with Lovemore N'dou in a pitiful SD win. The better question was who the hell was Paulie other than a beatable, non-punching opponent to make Hatton look good?

    Amazing how the Hatton-huggers never acknowledge the simple context of their man's decisions.
     
  12. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Oh God, I think I know where this is headed.
     
  13. GazOC

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    Bradley had one world class name on his record at that point (Witter) so because a Hatton-Bradley fight doesn't happen in the immediate 6 month window after the fight first becomes viable and Hatton takes on the number 1 contender instead theres a problem? Thats the context of that situation.

    If Hatton had of beaten Bradley and not Paulie at that point then you've be calling Bradley "unproven" and saying Hatton ducked his number 1 contender Mallinaggi because he knew he couldn't cope with Paulies speed and movement....
     
  14. GazOC

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    :lol: We'll be on page 13 by teatime!!!:roll:
     
  15. Jeff Young

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    paulie had been in some good fights, even in his lone defeat before hatton, he had his moments against cotto....paulie made the most sense for hatton at the time.....not bradley....

    paulie was a speedster boxer type, that was supposed to give hatton problems...