Ring IQ relating to general intelligence?

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  1. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    totally different. i don't expect einstein to win the heavyweight three times. i don't expect ali to cure cancer. and i don't expect stevie wonder to invent smartphones. these are all people who are brilliant but at their own field.
     
  2. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everyone is different mate.

    I think the core princaple is that you get found out in the ring. You don't know who you are, until you're in that situation.

    It's a gut check, you need to pass that first before you get the chance to see anything else.

    As for personality traits, I think it really is up to the individual. Some guys are in the ring, what they are out of the ring. Others change. I've seen guys who hardly say a word in 'real life' be the most arrogant *******s in the ring, because they are that comfortable in that situation.

    I've seen guys who yak all the time in reality, shell up and be so passive in the ring. Vise versa.

    Everyone is different, and again; a ring will show you who you really are.
     
  3. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    yeah I've factored this in a few times too. I like to think I'm cool headed in the ring. In the real world, I'm not overly anxious or emotional about anything and rarely get upset. You'll never see me get mad to the point that I won't to yell or scream at something(body).

    Then I was thinking of my friend who has a quick temper and is always easily bothered by stuff and little sensitive. I never sparred him, but I was wondering how easy it'd be to mind **** them in the ring :yep
     
  4. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    oh yeah man temperament plays a huge role, which is why domestic charges against floyd seem weird to me, given his kind of "wait and dissect you" style.

    I am a very impatient person - my chess game is violent and swift and you fall to my assault or you beat me at chess, even if I am "smarter". My amateur ring style is the same way: flurries and carelessness and my main thought is how I will damage my opponent and overwhelm them - peekaboo and counterpunching are just not for me. That may be a "stupid" way to attack but it's in the temperament. One of my sparring partners is a natural countepuncher - wait for the "perfect" moment to punch and block everything, and he plays chess the same damn way.
     
  5. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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    Really?
     
  6. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    After reading that, we should spar :D
     
  7. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Exceptions to the rule IMO.

    Book intelligence and ring intelligence usually doesn't go together.

    I'd be more impressed if the Klitchkos had degrees in Comp Sci or Engineering than PE.
     
  8. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxing has always been a method for those from pooring surroundings (Meaning poorer education) to escape them, so natrually; Boxers aren't as well educated as say American Football players, who's route to that profession is more often than not through college.
     
  9. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I couldn't agree more. There's a point where even a "thinking man" like myself will let emotion over ride. Eating a good right hand has pushed me past that point.

    I think one of the reasons I am still close to a couple of the guys I trained with, and one who instructed us, is that we have tested each other and learned things about ourselves and each other, that most friends haven't done.

    It's weird to say that I met one of my best friends when he hit me in a sparring session and I stood up to him. A lot of people don't understand it, but those who have sparred do.
     
  10. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    so just an example is juan marquez's BA in accounting, or MAB's BA in prelaw, or Calvin Brock's BA in banking more impressive than the brothers' phd in Sports?
     
  11. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    :yep

    Napoleon complex?
     
  12. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One of my best friends now, I met him at a training course. Round the corner was a regular gym that we tried, and at the back was a Boxing ring. He asked if I'd boxed before and I said 'no' (Big lie) so he said great, let's spar.

    He comes out throwing haymaker punches, and I dropped him with a short right hook. When he got up he said 'no hooks' so I dropped him with a straight left. He went home pretty angry. Next day we met to walk to work and he had a shiner, since then we've been real good mates :lol:
     
  13. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am not even sure "real" IQ has any relation to general intelligence
     
  14. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    To be fair, I don't know what's involved in studying sports. But accounting, law and banking are not really "natural" areas of study and require a fair bit of logic, reasoning and acceptance of weird and strange rules and laws. Sports is more understandable IMO.

    Boxing is more feel than thinking. If you try to use logic and reasoning in boxing, you will get hit 10 times before you can implement the gameplan.
     
  15. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i agree. i also don't know what it takes to study sports or kinesology as they called it at my college. but i do know that their are some trainers that like fighters to play chess and i know some like manny steward who doesn't like it because he wants a fighter to not overly think about executing his game plan and feels chess makes his fighters think too much.