Ring Magazine fighter of the year; disagreements?

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- Duran No mas or not

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- Agree

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- tie with Pryor

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- Hearns banner year, but I would like to see Pedroza given recognition in a tie.

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-Hagler/Hearns was great and Curry was in his pomp, but Camacho deserved the fighter of the year.

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- Nelson deserved recognition, Tyson was not quite there yet.

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- Tyson walked it, Chavez second, Leonard third and Holyfield fourth.

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- Chavez deserved the tie

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- Taylor deserved the tie

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- Douglas deserved the tie

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- Chavez and Whitaker edged out Toney

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- Whitaker should of won

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- Jones and Whitaker were ahead of de la Hoya

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- Tough one, de la Hoya deserved the share

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- Would like to of seen Ricardo Lopez recognized

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- Mosley deserved it.

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- Nice touch, but 1999 was Lewis' year.

 

Duran's performance in New Orleans, similar to Douglas against Holyfield, was too terrible. At least make a real effort to win, don't quit because you're frustrated, or in the case with Douglas, quit during training camp and look for a nice spot on the canvas to lie on.

James Toney's 1991 win over p4p entrant Michael Nunn, along with defenses against contenders/recently stripped champs Johnson and McCallum (I thought Toney won both), made him more deserving of FOTY than Chavez beating guys like Lonnie Smith and Duplessis, or Pea's defenses over Diaz, Jones, and Paez.

Whitaker may have had a case in 1995 by winning a title in his 4th weight class over Vasquez, but Jones? For beating Paz, Byrd, and Thornton?

 

But the Rock had 2 thrilling fights with Charles. I dont think Moore did anything compare to the cut nose comeback, and the points victory to get the honor over the Rock.

 

The brilliance of their initial performances were such, that they deserved recognition.

Whitaker was in his pomp, and everyone knew it, Chavez was the driving force of the sport; Toney was too hit and miss in 91.

Nunn was beating him for 11 rounds, Johnson would go on to prove himself a fair challenge to anyone, but at the time Toney was considered to of disappointed. McCallum had seen better days, and still deserved at least a draw against boxings new superstar IMO.

Jones peaked in 1995, sure it was not against the best opposition, but at the time the superfights seemed just around the corner. I guess it shows how damning Jones career was. Arguable the only fighter who has come along who could of matched up to Robinson, and yet he peaked beating the likes of Antonio Byrd...

 

Fighter of the Year is more about accomplishments and achievements in a given year. Jones may have peaked in 1995, but Oscar beat better opposition, therefore he won Fighter of the Year.

Nunn was winning on points against Toney until the KO, but it's no shame in being behind to the heavily favored Nunn, and Toney did a good job of getting to Nunn in the previous 2-3 rounds before landing that perfect left hand. I can't remember if it was Ring or KO, but I remember them saying they had decided before Toney-McCallum that the winner would be Fighter of the Year. It was ruled a draw, but they had Toney ahead 115-114, so he won Fighter of the Year.

Toney's dissapointing performances were more in 1992, with a dubious decision over Tiberi and a close debatable decision (I thought Mccallum won) in the return bout with McCallum.

 

Hagler was more deserving than Duran for '80.

 

Moore beat Maxim & Johnson for the title - both (particularly Johnson) more of a threat to Moore's championship than Charles was to Marciano's. For good measure, Moore whacked a heavyweight contender as well, Baker. In hindsight, it seems knocking out Whitehurst was a fair achievement too, since Liston couldn't do it in two attempts.

 

Well Moore beat Maxim for the title in 52. So I dont think that can count for his 54 run.

Well your useing highsight for Whitehurst, no one though he would give Liston the problems he did nearly 5 years down the road. Lets not foget that Charles DID beat Johnson, though he was robbed. Also lets rember Charles was 3-0 vs Moore by 54. I belive Marciano Earn that fighter of the year in 54. with the wars he stage vs Charles.

 

"Moore, Moore in 54." :happy

 

1978-Arguello

1980-Hagler

1981 should have been a three way tie because of Hagler's domination of Hamsho

1982-Dwight Braxton/Mustafa Hamsho

1984 was the year of Livingstone Bramble and no one but.

1991-Terry Norris

 

No.

 

That's your opinion.

I see it this way; Mustafa won 31 straight and beating Hamsho took a major effort on Marvin's part. it was also the performance of the year.

Arguello was 1978's fighter of the year with his second title and he didn't really lose to Fernandez who was just running and refused to fight. you can't even call it boxing.

 

Your logic is ****ed.

 

There is a lot of politics in The Ring fighter of the year, sometimes it benefits them to declare a winner, before their time (Tyson in 86: Ali/Clay in 63), and sometimes a fighter is rewarded because he is the figurehead of a cause (Carbajal; brought mainstream attention to 108ers: Ayala: A figurehead of the skilled but light punching and non mainstream boxers that help keep the sport going.)

So although Jones did not have a banner year in 95; he was clearly in his peak, and could of quite easily been given the honour...

 

Duran certainly deserved to win the award in 1978 for unifying the title against Dejesus in the rubber match. Wilfredo Gomez (who defeated Zarate) would also have been a good choice.

Carbajal was deserving of the award in 1993, and, I'd say Ayala was deserving of the award in 1999.