Ring magazine p4p update: Canelo #3, Golovkin #4

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Usyk is one of the most respected boxers in the sport cheese sack.
     
  2. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thing with P4P rankings is that the criteria is used to fit the list, rather than the other way round.

    P4P rankings are just a subjective snapshot at the end of the day. I could have Loma #1 today, and then tomorrow have a change of heart and put Crawford or Usyk in there. Either would still be valid, as there's no way of objectively ranking fighters across weights as most of them will never actually compete against each other.

    What certainly shouldn't happen is that anyone who beats #1 automatically takes the top slot. All you need to do is work that one backwards and see the range of fighters who would be P4P #1 if that standard was applied.
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Crawford shouldn't be anywhere near top 5.

    It should be

    Loma
    Usyk
    GGG
    Canelo
    Garcia
    Wilder
    Spence

    And the rest up for the debate.
     
  4. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    The Ring has to pay attention to official results, so he should absolutely be above GGG. It's the best win in the sport right now, so I won't argue with them having him #1 should they choose to.

    Personal P4P's are different though and a waste of time to argue with. I scored it for GGG myself, so I still have him above Canelo. But Canelo's performance in that fight has moved him up a little in my list
     
  5. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    learn some manners I wasn't even talking to you
     
  6. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Wilder should not be in the top 10 yet you ignorant hypocrite.
     
  7. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    The baddest man on the planet who deserves to be on the top 10 list you intellectually challenged twat.
     
  8. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Take his balls out of your mouth and try thinking clearly Stephy.
     
  9. Sergey Shubenkov

    Sergey Shubenkov Remember banned Full Member

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    I thought it was a good list until I saw Wilders name! lol how the **** is that clumsy windmilling cherry picking ducker anywhere near a P4P list
     
  10. Sergey Shubenkov

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    1 Vasyl Lomachenko
    2 Oleksandr Usyk
    3 Saul Alvarez
    4 Terence Crawford
    5 Gennady Golovkin
    6 Mikey Garcia

    :deal:
     
  11. slender4

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    So Mikey Garcia is undefeated with titles in four weight classes and can't get in the top 5?
     
  12. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Ok, so current RING is
    1. Loma 2. Crawford 3.Alvarez 4. Golovkin 5. Uysk 6. Garcia 7. Inoue 8. Rungvisay 9. Spence 10. Nietes


    For the fantasy match-ups, how do you guys compare/respect this list from
    Ring May 26, 2004.
    1. Hopkins 2. Mayweather 3. Tarver 4. Jones Jr 5. DLH 6. Wright 7. Morales 8. Pac 9. JMM 10. Tszyu

    My 1994 P4P Ring rankings place these fighters head up:
    1. Whitaker WBC WW champ 32-1-1
    2. Toney IBF SMW Chmap 42-0-2
    3. Carbajal WBC/IBF Fly Champ 29-0
    4. Canizale IBF Bantam Champ 35-1-1
    5. Holyfield WBA/IBF HW champ 32-1
    6. R. Lopez Strw champ 39-0
    7. F. Randall WBC Jr.W Champ 49-2-1
    8. JCC 89-1
    9. RJJ IBF MW champ 24-0
    K. McKinney IBF Jr.F Champ 25-0-1

    1994 is a killer era for 3G & Canelo. Put 'em in a time capsule back to 1994 and they're ranked with an un-unified division IBF is Toney. WBA is Nunn. WBC is Benn. Top 5 rounded off with 36-0-1 Eubank & 23-0 T. Littles


    & Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder & Tyson Fury are ranked with
    1. Holy Unified 30-1
    2. Bowe 34-1
    3. Lewis WBC 24-0
    4. Moorer 34-0
    5. Ray Mercer 23-2
     
  13. Tramell

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  14. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    3G & Canelo would both do well in circa 1990.

    Nunn could outbox both, but get his chin checked at some point. More so because of his long neck, as opposed to a weak chin.

    Kalambay would be tough for either to beat Same with McCallum, but Duran is just out of his league, fighting since 1969, they'd both beat Duran on points. Barkely gets stopped by both. Benn is a darkhorse, otherwise both stand to win more than they lose with this era of MWs.
    Title Vacant
    1. Michael Nunn
    2. Sumbu Kalambay
    3. Mike McCallum
    4. Roberto Duran
    5. Iran Barkley
    6. Michael Watson
    7. Herol Graham
    8. Steve Collins
    9. Nigel Benn
    10. Dennis Milton
     
  15. NoNeck

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