(Ring Magazine) Top 10 P4P fighters since 1922

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  1. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Post it.

    It would be interesting.
     
  2. TAC602

    TAC602 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    +1

    I saw a portion of it standing in line at the grocery store. Put together pretty good.

    I recall SRR and Charles being 1-2 for the 1940s, Duran No. 1 of the 70s, SRL No. 1 of the 80s, Sanchez No. 3.
     
  3. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    It's always nice to see someone's rating and disagree violently!:lol:
     
  4. TAC602

    TAC602 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At first glance, they appeared to be pretty decent compilations although I can't remember the orders, which will always stir a spirited debate.
     
  5. guru059

    guru059 TV Packager Full Member

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    1920s

    1. Harry Greb
    2. Benny Leonard
    3. Gene Tunney
    4. Mickey Walker
    5. Pancho Villa
    6. Tommy Loughran
    7. Jack Dempsey
    8. Bud Taylor
    9. Tony Canzoneri
    10. Tiger Flowers

    1930s

    1. Henry Armstrong
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Barney Ross
    4. Tony Canzoneri
    5. Jimmy McLarnin
    6. Freddie Steele
    7. Panama Al Brown
    8. Benny Lynch
    9. Jack Berg
    10. Kid Chocolate

    1940s

    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Ezzard Charles
    3. Willie Pep
    4. Joe Louis
    5. Ike Williams
    6. Manuel Ortiz
    7. Sandy Saddler
    8. Billy Conn
    9. Jake LaMotta
    10. Marcel Cerdan

    1950s

    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Archie Moore
    3. Kid Gavilan
    4. Rocky Marciano
    5. Pascual Perez
    6. Sandy Saddler
    7. Gene Fullmer
    8. Carmen Basilio
    9. Joe Brown
    10. Harold Johnson

    1960s

    1. Eder Jofre
    2. Muhammad Ali
    3. Carlos Ortiz
    4. Emile Griffith
    5. Fighting Harada
    6. Nino Benvenuti
    7. Vicente Saldivar
    8. Ruben Olivares
    9. Dick Tiger
    10. Flash Elorde

    1970s

    1. Roberto Duran
    2. Carlos Monzon
    3. Jose Napoles
    4. Alexis Arguello
    5. Miguel Canto
    6. Wilfredo Gomez
    7. Carlos Zarate
    8. Muhammad Ali
    9. Bob Foster
    10. Yoko Gushiken

    1980s

    1. Sugar Ray Leonard
    2. Marvin Hagler
    3. Salvador Sanchez
    4. Michael Spinks
    5. Tommy Hearns
    6. Julio Cesar Chavez
    7. Mike Tyson
    8. Aaron Pryor
    9. Larry Holmes
    10. Jeff Chander

    1990s

    1. Pernell Whitaker
    2. Roy Jones Jr.
    3. James Toney
    4. Evander Holyfield
    5. Julio Cesar Chavez
    6. Bernard Hopkins
    7. Felix Trinidad
    8. Ricardo Lopez
    9. Oscar De La Hoya
    10. Terry Norris

    2000s

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    3. Bernard Hopkins
    4. Erik Morales
    5. Joe Calzaghe
    6. Juan Manuel Marquez
    7. Roy Jones Jr.
    8. Marco Antonio Barrera
    9. Rafael Marquez
    10. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
     
  6. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Thanks, man.

    Not bad.

    Although some choices I'd debate!;)
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Horrible list
     
  8. TAC602

    TAC602 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  9. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Just a couple of points.

    40's was Robinson's welter prime,
    in 50's he was on the decline and far to inconsistent.

    And in 40's you have prime Ezz destroying lt. heavyweight division in one of the most impressive runs in history of the sport.

    Where's Burley or Holman Williams?

    No love for Chang:verysad

    Roy is second in the 90's?

    Someone probably would find some other choices questionable too.
     
  10. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    Huh???
     
  11. TAC602

    TAC602 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was definitely on the downswing, but to do what he did then come out of retirement and put the wins he did on his resume is awfully impressive. Robinson defeated so many rated fighters throughout his career that even a widdled down significant list looks extensive.

    For the 1950s:

    02/51: Jake LaMotta [78-14] (MW Champ) W-KO13
    07/51: Randy Turpin [40-2] (#4 MW) L15
    09/51: Randy Turpin [41-2] (MW Champ) W-KO10
    03/52: Carl Olson [48-5] (#3 MW) W15
    04/52: Rocky Graziano [67-8] (#10 MW) KO3
    06/52: Joey Maxim [77-18] (LHW Champ) L-TKO14
    12/55: Carl Olson [71-7] (MW Champ) W-KO2
    05/56: Carl Olson [71-8] (#1 MW) W-KO4
    01/57: Gene Fullmer [37-3] (#1 MW) L15
    05/57: Gene Fullmer [40-3] (MW Champ) W-KO5
    09/57: Carmen Basilio [51-12] (#1 MW) L15
    03/58: Carmen Basilio [52-12] (MW Champ) W15

    Ezz has a very hot case for this decade as illustrated above in another post.

    This was dissapointing.
     
  12. Lester1583

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    True.

    But just for the sake of arguing;)

    For example wasn't Marciano's undefeated run comparable with Robinson's while being far more consistent?

    Or what about Saddler's featherweight run with 2 victories against Pep himself in the 50's?
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Funnily enough, if you take out Greb & put in Chavez, this is my exact top 10... bearing in mind I never include fighters with zero or bad viewable footage on my lists & the placing of certain fighters on this list differs from mine too.
     
  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Agreed... my top 10 in a rough order is....

    Robinson
    Armstrong
    Ali
    Pep
    Charles
    Duran
    Leonard (Ray)
    Louis
    Whitaker
    Chavez
     
  15. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxrec fight records are incomplete from that era. The lesser names on Greb's resume in all likelihood had considerably more fights, unless you want to believe that journeymen in the 10s and 20s fought a couple of times a year exclusively against Hall of Famers from the beginning of their careers :roll:

    Of far greater significance is that Greb beat 2 ATGs (Tunney and Walker) who were closer to their prime he was, along with a dozen other Hall of Famers across 3 divisions.

    Calzaghe's best win is Kessler, who was more convincingly beaten by Ward. It's a struggle to put an argument for Calzaghe being top 5 of the 00s, never mind the last 90 years.